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Gingrinch compares Virginia ballot fiasco to Pearl Harbor

sangha said:
No, he claimed it was "unexpected". The problem is, he should have expected what every other candidate expected (ie the need to get enough signatures to get on the ballot)
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He claimed the problem was unexpected. Don't let the facts get in your way.
 
sangha said:
1) I was responding to another poster who mentioned the surprise factor
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That's fine, I was just making sure things didn't go off on an inaccurate tangent.

2) He's no longer tied for first. He's sinking, and sinking fast. Now it's Pawlentys' turn
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Pawlenty dropped out months ago. I guess you really really have a low opinion of Gingrich.
 
Redress said:
He claimed the problem was unexpected. Don't let the facts get in your way.
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All the other candidates knew to expect that more signatures were needed in order to get on the ballot. Don't let that fact get in yours
 
sangha said:
McCain lost

And yes, it's Santorum who is surging now. My bad.
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Actually McCain won the republican primary, which is what we are talking about.
 
Imnukingfutz said:
Unfortunately thats an untrue story, confirmed by his family (daughters). He may have been cheating on her then, but he didnt notify her of the divorce while she was in the hospital.
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Well, he was certainly screwing his girlfriend while his wife was in the hospital dying of cancer. He even admits that.
 
sangha said:
All the other candidates knew to expect that more signatures were needed in order to get on the ballot. Don't let that fact get in yours
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Actually Perry ran into the same problem, and this does not change the fact that the setback was unexpected. This is in the very article linked in the OP, you might want to read it.
 
Redress said:
In (sorta) Gingrich's defense, he has had major shakeups in staff and almost no money to get the best people with.
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Just like a judge would say "ignorance is not a point of law" I say "bull-hockey"...his staff left because while he is a genius, he is also an ego-maniac, much more than Obama.
 
coolwalker said:
Just like a judge would say "ignorance is not a point of law" I say "bull-hockey"...his staff left because while he is a genius, he is also an ego-maniac, much more than Obama.
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Oh trust me, I am wasting no effort in feeling bad for Gingrich, and hell, my post was actually a subtle jab at him.
 
BTW...Perry also won't be on the ballot (I live in "The Old Dominion")
 
Redress said:
Oh trust me, I am wasting no effort in feeling bad for Gingrich, and hell, my post was actually a subtle jab at him.
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A subtle jab is like a mosquito on a rhino...useless.
 
Objective Voice said:
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Really, Newt?



Read more: Gingrich Compares Virginia Ballot Fiasco to Pearl Harbor - Fox News

Folks have been saying for a while it was only a matter of time before Newt said something stupid and put his foot in his mouth. Well, looks like they were right. :roll:
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Newt is simply displaying something called, "JAILHOUSE MENTALITY". In other words, "I'm not guilty, its him, her, or it". I'm a victim. I was innocent when I was fined $300,000 for unethical behavior while serving as Speaker of the House. Somebody else made me screw around on my wife while I was grandstanding to get Clinton impeached over Lewinsky. I'M INNOCENT!

Newt is a pathological liar. He's a huckster that will sing any song to any group who will give him 5 minutes of time. I could burn up a keyboard writing about what a genuine asshole Newt is.

I know my comments fall on blind eyes - so I'll stop here.
 
Redress said:
Actually Perry ran into the same problem, and this does not change the fact that the setback was unexpected. This is in the very article linked in the OP, you might want to read it.
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Actually, it was expected. The other candidates expected to have a portion of their signatures disqualified, which is why they got many more signatures than they needed. Every four years, the candidates do this. There's nothing "unexpected" about it.
 
sangha said:
Actually, it was expected. The other candidates expected to have a portion of their signatures disqualified, which is why they got many more signatures than they needed. Every four years, the candidates do this. There's nothing "unexpected" about it.
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If you discover on April 14th that you made a mistake on your taxes, need a new form that you can't get till the 16th, you have experienced an unexpected setback, even though you knew taxes where due the 15th. You are trying way too hard.
 
sangha said:
Actually, it was expected. The other candidates expected to have a portion of their signatures disqualified, which is why they got many more signatures than they needed. Every four years, the candidates do this. There's nothing "unexpected" about it.
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As I understand it the rule says that 10k signatures are requires, but if you get 15k signatures or more, they are "deemed" to be valid signatures, i.e., they don't check them to make sure they're valid. Both Romney and Paul got over 15k so they didn't have to worry about it.
 
sangha said:
Actually, it was expected. The other candidates expected to have a portion of their signatures disqualified, which is why they got many more signatures than they needed. Every four years, the candidates do this. There's nothing "unexpected" about it.
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Anybody who has ever done any kind of petition drive for anything knows that you'll lose - on average - 10-15% of your signatures due to duplication, illegibility, or lack of qualifications.
 
There is something massively wrong with the system in VA when only two of four who try to get on the ballot make it, and the rest don't even try. This is the first year that VA actually verified the signatures, as in years past, if you got 10K, you were on. To their credit, VA did warn candidates back in March that they were checking now, and to get 15-20K signatures. Hopefully Perry's lawsuit will bear fruit.

In the meantime, Gingrich didn't say anything about Pearl Harbor and VA. ;)
 
Redress said:
If you discover on April 14th that you made a mistake on your taxes, need a new form that you can't get till the 16th, you have experienced an unexpected setback, even though you knew taxes where due the 15th. You are trying way too hard.
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Unless you're a tax professional, if you do your (the general "you", not "you = redress") own taxes, a mistake would not be unexpected :lol:
 
sangha said:
Unless you're a tax professional, if you do your (the general "you", not "you = redress") own taxes, a mistake would not be unexpected :lol:
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And this is why I said you are trying to hard.
 
I wonder who Gingrich will vote for in the VA primary??
 
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