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Romney HANDED the GOP ticket

Why does everyone hate Mitt Romney? There is nothing wrong with him. He is a respectable politician. Newt Gingrich is the one we should be worried about. He is an embarrassment to the GOP. He is also super corrupt.
 
Why does everyone hate Mitt Romney? There is nothing wrong with him. He is a respectable politician. Newt Gingrich is the one we should be worried about. He is an embarrassment to the GOP. He is also super corrupt.

The hatred for Romney is based upon ignorance and lack of understanding as to states' right issues. Obama supporters are always going to try and destroy anyone who threatens the "chosen one" and they should fear Romney. Conservatives will wake up if Romney is the choice.
 
The hatred for Romney is based upon ignorance and lack of understanding as to states' right issues. Obama supporters are always going to try and destroy anyone who threatens the "chosen one" and they should fear Romney. Conservatives will wake up if Romney is the choice.

Conservative what? More tarp, more bills like sopa, ndaa/strengthen patriot act, govt run by banksters like goldman sachs, jp morgan and other lobbyist, increasing the military industrial complex funding, no significant cutting of the defict, trade war with china, likelier chance of war, consulting lawyers instead of obeying the constitution. No ty.
 
Mitt Romney is the best candidate in the GOP field for 2012!
 
Conservative what? More tarp, more bills like sopa, ndaa/strengthen patriot act, govt run by banksters like goldman sachs, jp morgan and other lobbyist, increasing the military industrial complex funding, no significant cutting of the defict, trade war with china, likelier chance of war, consulting lawyers instead of obeying the constitution. No ty.

How has any of those affected you or your family? Think the 20 trillion dollar debt will affect you? Obama has added 4.5 trillion 3 years and that makes the debt worse than the country's GDP. That coupled with the unemployment, employment, labor force, misery index makes your points worseless.
 
The hatred for Romney is based upon ignorance and lack of understanding as to states' right issues. Obama supporters are always going to try and destroy anyone who threatens the "chosen one" and they should fear Romney. Conservatives will wake up if Romney is the choice.

Who will your "chosen one" be? Bush is the old one, who will the new one be?
 
How has any of those affected you or your family? Think the 20 trillion dollar debt will affect you? Obama has added 4.5 trillion 3 years and that makes the debt worse than the country's GDP. That coupled with the unemployment, employment, labor force, misery index makes your points worseless.

Sorry, but im not voting for someone who will add to those points/enact them to a greater severity. Also increase the debt, big govt and remain with the status quo.
 
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Sorry, but im not voting for someone who will add to those points/enact them to a greater severity. Also increase the debt, big govt and remain with the status quo.

Then you will be staying home as the GOP alternative is better than what we have right now.
 
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Mitt Romney

Then apparently you misunderstood my post. i will be voting for Romney if he is the nominee. I believe he is more qualified than the current occupant of the WH
 
Then apparently you misunderstood my post. i will be voting for Romney if he is the nominee. I believe he is more qualified than the current occupant of the WH

Check out his sig con.:2wave:
 
I see a lot of accusations, without any material support to back them up.

Weak sauce.

So your position is Perry and Gingrich didn't do the work, therefore somebody should change the rules for them, and the only reason this is happening is because of the Republican establishment? Or have I been misreading it?

Seems pretty much like you've woven a conspiracy theory around how Newt is not to blame.
 
There's a fundamental difference between us. You believe in fidelity to the law no matter what.

I believe that the law only exists to ensure our freedom.

The law is man-made, for the benefit of man. Who benefits from this Virginia law? Not the people of Virginia. Therefore, it is a bad law.

Do you wonder why the liberal took your side? Because you are arguing against personal freedom. I am a true ideological conservative. I believe in the right to vote for whomever you want. You apparently believe the governemnt should be able to winnow down your list of candidates.

But, in this case, its a good law; at least for Republicans. Anything the works to end this charade that there are viable alternatives to Mitt Romney will only help the Republicans.

BTW... the failure of Gingrich and Perry to qualify in Virginia is part of the Darwin order. If you political organization is so weak that you miss a filing deadline; well, what kind of executive are you anyway?
 
So I'm not "reasonable minded" because I think Virginians should be afforded the option to vote for Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, or Gingrich?

Yeah ok, and thanks for dragging this discussion in to the mud.

I'm not surprised that you want someone else to speak for you. Typical liberal lemming mentality...

Correct, you are not reasonable minded if you think some don't have to meet the rules known to all. Why do you think Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, and Gingrich should be exceptions to the rules?
 
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That is not the complete rule. The rule also bans all candidates who are not Virginians, (plus anyone else not a Virginia) from seeking petition signatures. Virginia Republican's rule literally outlaws anyone but a Virginia from having the free speech right to even just ask someone to sign the petition to be on the ballot.

Under Virginia rules, it is illegal for Rick Perry to even just ask any Viriginia to sign his petition. If he did and the Virginia signed, that signature is invalid. If he asked in advertisement, 100% of the signatures would then be disqualified. Free speech in that regards is strictly prohibited in Virginia. Only Virginians are allowed to speak about politics in Virginia.

The Supreme Court ruled in a case about Colorado that prohibiting a candidate who resides in another state to gather petition signatures for his own campaign is unconstitutional. The theory of the Supreme Court is that the a state can not deny free speech / political rights to out-of-state candidates for president. It also ruled a state can not prohibit out-of-state individuals seeking petition signatures either because a state can not ban free speech rights to out of state citizens.

Like the Colorado case, the Virginia rule also prohibited Perry and anyone else who isn't a Virginia voter from obtaining even a single signature himself. Asking a person to sign a political petition is a free-speech right universal to all people that a state can not prohibit, or so the Supreme Court ruled - I think in 1999. Whether there is time for Perry to get it to court though is another matter.

Virginia maybe wants to keep "foreigners" from involving in their politics and thus denying them political equality and free speech rights, but I'm sure plenty of localities and state entities didn't like anti-war protestors, Tea Partiers, and Occupiers coming into their state hoping to influence government and would like that free speech outlawed too. I'm sure Mississippi in the 1950s and 60s had such a view about Civil Rights marchers from out of state too - that it should be illegal and such free speech outlawed.

With only 50 delegates and Virginia banning candidate's campaign staff or candidate him/herself gathering signatures, Virginian isn't worth the effort for the few delegates involved. If Virginia outlaws national politics, then leave it out of the national presidential election.

As a legalism, though unlikely, the Republican National Party could decide to completely disqualify the Virginia primary or reduce a delegate voting strength to 1/10th a delegate.

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As a note, ALL signature requirements are designed to protect incumbent and establishment candidates. Virginia also doesn't allow write-in candidates and such a rule pretty much blows 3rd parties out of the process too.

Only incumbents, those with party establishment support or the rich may seek the Virginia nomination for President. Its a sleazy protect to status quo and powers-that-be rule.

You need to read up on the background behind the voting laws in Virginia. Here are couple of facts: You can indeed write-in votes in any general election, including for president. It was a Republican that sued the state that brought about the change in primary voting that now requires 10,000 signatures and does not allow write-ins during primary voting.

As I noted before, we are very, very conservative state. I find it highly entertaining that conservatives are now complaining that Virginia is too conservative. LOL!
 
The problem is that a lot of conservatives don't want to support Mitt Romney.

But, in this case, its a good law; at least for Republicans. Anything the works to end this charade that there are viable alternatives to Mitt Romney will only help the Republicans.

BTW... the failure of Gingrich and Perry to qualify in Virginia is part of the Darwin order. If you political organization is so weak that you miss a filing deadline; well, what kind of executive are you anyway?
 
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