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Donald Trump Bolts Republican Party, Eyeing Other 2012 Option

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Huntsman is considering doing the same thing dropping out of the Primary and running third party as a libertarian
Its getting pretty apparent that the GOP wants desparately to lose this election and give obama 4 more years


ABC News’ Michael Falcone reports: Donald Trump is officially a man without a party.
The real estate mogul whose flirtation with the 2012 presidential race has never really ended despite announcing seven months ago he would not seek the Republican nomination has been signaling he wants to find other ways onto a presidential ticket.
Trump took another step in that direction on Thursday, switching his party affiliation from Republican to “unaffiliated,” according to a source close to the reality television star.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...s-republican-party-eyeing-other-2012-options/
 
Trump is an asshole.

The 24/7 rage TV, specifically FOX now, offering ego-tripping airtime to anyone willing to say highly inflammatory statements and in any way might be a candidate is redefining American politics in really bad ways. There might be 3,4,5 independents for president. Maybe then there will be 40 independent candidates debates on FOX.
 
Regardless of what you think of him...he has to split some of the GOP vote if he gets in...He assumes he will get alot of the independent voters..
 
Ross Perot without the brains ;)
 
lpast said:
Huntsman is considering doing the same thing dropping out of the Primary and running third party as a libertarian
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You keep claiming this. Do you have a link? I've seen nothing indicating this from huntsman, and numerous things indicating he's not interested in running 3rd party
 
If Trump changed his hairstyle, that would be more interesting news to me.
 
This is almost as relevant as when he ditched the democrat party in 2002...except...we have already seen this gig before so its a lot less interesting.

Quite a while back I said someone LIKE a Donald trump would be a better candidate than any of the predictable future GOP candidates. This kind of behavior is why I said someone LIKE Donald Trump and not Donald Trump.
 
While non-conservatives diss the Donald, let's take a trip down memory lane:

April 15, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

Donald Trump is dominating a new Republican presidential nominee poll released by Public Policy Polling. He leads with 26 percent, followed by Mike Huckabee at 17 percent, Mitt Romney at 15 percent, Newt Gingrich at 11 percent, Sarah Palin at 8 percent, Ron Paul at 5 percent, Tim Pawlenty at 4 percent, and Michele Bachmann at 4 percent.

Donald Trump dominates GOP presidential poll - International Business Times
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Tuesday, 26 Apr 2011 05:21 PM -- By Jim Meyers

Newsmax’s Donald Trump presidential poll has now received more than a phenomenal 1 million responses!

And the online poll continues to show that Americans overwhelmingly favor Trump as their preferred candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Newsmax: Over 1 Million Take Trump for President Poll
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[giggle]
 
someone might pull some votes running to the right of Romney, but it won't be Trump. he would attract no independents and few wingers.
 
Zyphlin said:
You keep claiming this. Do you have a link? I've seen nothing indicating this from huntsman, and numerous things indicating he's not interested in running 3rd party
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man zyphlin I suck at finding what i posted or wrote...I posted the article on here somewhere...it said huntsman was considering dropping out of the republican primary and seeking the libertarian nod to run as a third party candidate...I will do my best to find it
 
Zyphlin said:
You keep claiming this. Do you have a link? I've seen nothing indicating this from huntsman, and numerous things indicating he's not interested in running 3rd party
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Ok I admit it...im an idiot...its not huntsman...its Gary Johnson...my apologies for getting them mixed up


Gary Johnson will quit the Republican primaries and seek the Libertarian Party nomination instead, POLITICO has learned.

The former two-term New Mexico governor, whose campaign for the GOP nomination never caught fire, will make the announcement at a news conference in Santa Fe on Dec. 28. Johnson state directors will be informed of his plans on a campaign conference call Tuesday night, a Johnson campaign source told POLITICO.

Read more: Gary Johnson to drop out of GOP primary to run as Libertarian - Reid J. Epstein and Ginger Gibson - POLITICO.com
 
If Mitt gets the GOP nod, Trump may well fund his own third party run and would likely pull Tea Party and "anybody-but-Romney" votes from the GOP. Gary Johnson will likely pull a lot of the Libertarian vote from the GOP. What this would mean is Obama gets a much larger victory in 2012 than he deserves.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
If Mitt gets the GOP nod, Trump may well fund his own third party run and would likely pull Tea Party and "anybody-but-Romney" votes from the GOP. Gary Johnson will likely pull a lot of the Libertarian vote from the GOP. What this would mean is Obama gets a much larger victory in 2012 than he deserves.
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I would be surprised if Johnson manages to even double then average libertarian percentage of the vote over the past 20ish years, and even that wouldn't be 1% of the popular vote. He'd need to at least Sextuple the average just to even have a small effect on the GOP, and then ONLY if its an election that is a nail biter.
 
Zyphlin said:
I would be surprised if Johnson manages to even double then average libertarian percentage of the vote over the past 20ish years, and even that wouldn't be 1% of the popular vote. He'd need to at least Sextuple the average just to even have a small effect on the GOP, and then ONLY if its an election that is a nail biter.
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I expect him to tap Ron Paul as his VP. Between them, they currently have about 10% of the GOP primary votes. I've already heard a few "anybody by Obama" conservatives say they will vote for Johnson if Romney is the nominee.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
I expect him to tap Ron Paul as his VP. Between them, they currently have about 10% of the GOP primary votes. I've already heard a few "anybody by Obama" conservatives say they will vote for Johnson if Romney is the nominee.
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Ron Paul has said he's 99% positive he won't run as a 3rd party, saying the only reason he wouldn't say absolutely is because he doesnt like absolutes, but has state he has absolutely no idea of any situation with the current election that he could think of that would lead him to run 3rd party.

If he was to join as a VP itd mean he was doing it counter to what is routinely said is a huge positive for him...that he's honest.

Theres no reason to believe Paul will run 3rd party save for some people fantasizing about it void of facts
 
Very perceptive of you, Frolicking Dinosaurs, and this very dynamic--splintering the votes--doesn't bode well for the Republicans.
 
AlanF said:
Very perceptive of you, Frolicking Dinosaurs, and this very dynamic--splintering the votes--doesn't bode well for the Republicans.
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The libertarian party hasn't generated more than 1% of the vote for at least 20 years worth of elections. They average during that stretch just .36%. Gary Johnson wasn't even making a blip in the republican primary. Theres no FACTUAL reason other, than anecdotal forum posts and fantasies by people who dislike the republican candidates, to suggest that a Gary Johnson libertarian run will have any effect other than perhaps a tiny one IF the election is ridiculously close
 
lpast said:
Regardless of what you think of him...he has to split some of the GOP vote if he gets in...He assumes he will get alot of the independent voters..
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Exactly. "The Donald" already stated that he would run Independent if he doesn't think the nominee can beat Obama. Translated that means if the nominee is anyone other than Newt or Santorum, that he will be the spoiler. Trump is the establishment's ace in the hole; their last ditch effort to ensure that Ron Paul doesn't step foot in the White House.
 
The Prophet said:
Exactly. "The Donald" already stated that he would run Independent if he doesn't think the nominee can beat Obama. Translated that means if the nominee is anyone other than Newt or Santorum, that he will be the spoiler. Trump is the establishment's ace in the hole; their last ditch effort to ensure that Ron Paul doesn't step foot in the White House.
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Whether Donald Trump runs or doesn't, Ron Paul has virtually no chance of winning the Presidency. His mishandling of the PR crisis that erupted from his past newsletters has further damaged him and the damage is continuing to mount in the face of his ineffectual response.
 
Trumps only goal is more publicity for Donald Trump.
 
With Trump gone, the IQ of the Republican party just doubled. :mrgreen:
 
donsutherland1 said:
Whether Donald Trump runs or doesn't, Ron Paul has virtually no chance of winning the Presidency. His mishandling of the PR crisis that erupted from his past newsletters has further damaged him and the damage is continuing to mount in the face of his ineffectual response.
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Well everybody has baggage in their past, and Ron Paul is no exception. But all he has to say is that Alex Linder, head of the Texas NAACP, knew him for 20 years, and can attest to the fact that he is no racist. That'll shut the liberal left and their media conglomerates up real fast! But Donald Trump is set to be a spoiler to anybody who isn't Newt or Santorum. If Trump runs, it'll only siphon votes from the Republicans, as no Democrats will abandon Obama and vote for Trump.

Racism doesn't coinside with the definition of a libertarian; it's an oxymoron to be a racist AND a libertarian.
 
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The Prophet said:
Well everybody has baggage in their past, and Ron Paul is no exception. But all he has to say is that Alex Linder, head of the Texas NAACP, knew him for 20 years, and can attest to the fact that he is no racist. That'll shut the liberal left and their media conglomerates up real fast! But Donald Trump is set to be a spoiler to anybody who isn't Newt or Santorum. If Trump runs, it'll only siphon votes from the Republicans, as no Democrats will abandon Obama and vote for Trump.

Racism doesn't coinside with the definition of a libertarian; it's an oxymoron to be a racist AND a libertarian.
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You are obviously a libertarian and Paul true believer. I could not care less what somebody named Alex Linder says about Ron Paul as a person. His record stinks. His record sucks. His record is one of the worst of any American politician when it comes to being on the right side of legislative issues impacting African Americans.

I have known many libertarians over they ears and racism is no stranger to many of them.
 
haymarket said:
You are obviously a libertarian and Paul true believer. I could not care less what somebody named Alex Linder says about Ron Paul as a person. His record stinks. His record sucks. His record is one of the worst of any American politician when it comes to being on the right side of legislative issues impacting African Americans.
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If it only impacts African Americans then by it's very definition it's racist.
 
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