Republican Primaries: Evangelical Christians

We need to pick a candidate and back him/her. We can't divide our vote. Right now, we are split between Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry, and I suppose Santorum and Paul.

Romney will have 25% of the Republican vote regardless.

If the Evangelical vote remains split, Romeny will win the Republican nomination.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

I agree. You guys need to unite and back Gingrich. You can't let Romney get the nomination

What's wrong with Romney getting the nomination?

The problem is you're not going to likely fully united the evangelical vote with this crowd because many of them hold similar views when it comes to the core issues that evangelicals worry about, which means then who they support falls to their secondary issues of import. They won't fully unite until most candidates they'd support drop out, and by then it may be too late for them to cause a significant shift.

Peter Grimm said:

We need to pick a candidate and back him/her. We can't divide our vote. Right now, we are split between Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry, and I suppose Santorum and Paul.

Romney will have 25% of the Republican vote regardless.

If the Evangelical vote remains split, Romeny will win the Republican nomination.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

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Gingrich: serial adulterer and long-time politician.
Bachmann: woefully ignorant.
Perry: Loose cannon. Both Perry and Bachmann are afflicted with Boot-In-Mouth Disease, and the media capitalizes on every incident.
Paul: too far out there in Libertarian Land, and wants to cut Israel loose.
Santorum: Total dark horse with a snowballs' chance in Hades.



I don't like Romney, but it is getting to the point that I don't see much choice.

Evangelicals want a churchgoing Christian as the nominee. Someone who shares our core beliefs.

That's why you see Romney with a steady 25% polling number representing the "mainstream" non-evangelical Repubs, while the 75% that are the conservative/evangelical wing of the party keep changing their mind on which horse to back.

If we could quit splitting our vote, we could get someone in who matches our values.

digsbe said:

What's wrong with Romney getting the nomination?

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Very true. And unfortunate.

Zyphlin said:

The problem is you're not going to likely fully united the evangelical vote with this crowd because many of them hold similar views when it comes to the core issues that evangelicals worry about, which means then who they support falls to their secondary issues of import. They won't fully unite until most candidates they'd support drop out, and by then it may be too late for them to cause a significant shift.

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That's a good assessment. The only disagreement I have is with Gingrich and Santorum: With Gingrich if he's asked forgiveness then who are we to judge? Also it might not be a bad thing to have an experienced man in Washington this time around. We've had quite enough "learning on the job" for the last 4 years.

With Santorum, I disagree because I think we should vote for the man/woman we want, not compromise because we think so-and-so has a better shot of being elected.

Goshin said:

Gingrich: serial adulterer and long-time politician.
Bachmann: woefully ignorant.
Perry: Loose cannon. Both Perry and Bachmann are afflicted with Boot-In-Mouth Disease, and the media capitalizes on every incident.
Paul: too far out there in Libertarian Land, and wants to cut Israel loose.
Santorum: Total dark horse with a snowballs' chance in Hades.



I don't like Romney, but it is getting to the point that I don't see much choice.

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Peter Grimm said:

Evangelicals want a churchgoing Christian as the nominee. Someone who shares our core beliefs.

That's why you see Romney with a steady 25% polling number representing the "mainstream" non-evangelical Repubs, while the 75% that are the conservative/evangelical wing of the party keep changing their mind on which horse to back.

If we could quit splitting our vote, we could get someone in who matches our values.

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Gingrich matches your values. You should unite behind him.

digsbe said:

What's wrong with Romney getting the nomination?

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Romney is the worlds biggest flip flopper....he makes Kerry look firm.

Peter Grimm said:

Evangelicals want a churchgoing Christian as the nominee. Someone who shares our core beliefs.

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So does that mean no Mormons?

Peter Grimm said:

Evangelicals want a churchgoing Christian as the nominee. Someone who shares our core beliefs.

That's why you see Romney with a steady 25% polling number representing the "mainstream" non-evangelical Repubs, while the 75% that are the conservative/evangelical wing of the party keep changing their mind on which horse to back.

If we could quit splitting our vote, we could get someone in who matches our values.

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Romney is a "churchgoing Christian" - he believes in Christ, that makes him Christian, I think he goes to church as much as Gingrich probably.

Not so fast.

Ex-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin took herself out of the 2012 Republican presidential race in October, but two months later she is continuing continues to tantalize and toy with the contest.
“It’s not too late for folks to jump in: Who knows what will happen in the future?” Palin, the Republicans’ 2008 vice presidential nominee, told the Fox Business Network on Monday night.

Palin has enjoyed upstaging finding ways to upstage the Republican field through much of the year.

The ex-governor’s “Freedom” bus tour of America’s historic sites arrived in New Hampshire just as GOP frontrunner ex-Gov. Mitt Romney was formally announcing his candidacy 10 miles away.

She hit the Iowa State Fair in August, on the eve of a Republican Straw Poll that drew most of the GOP field.

While Palin said in October she would not seek the Republican nomination, she is stepping back into the limelight just two weeks before the January 3 Iowa presidential caucuses.

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While Sarah is starting to get restless there is this news:

Real estate mogul Donald Trump, who flirted with the Republican contest in April, recently pulled out as moderator of a GOP debate. Trump said has not ruled out entering the 2012 race for the White House if Republicans do not nominate the “right” candidate.

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Sarah and The Donald still may come to the rescue.

Sarah Palin: “It’s not too late” | Strange Bedfellows — Politics News - seattlepi.com

Sarah is talking smack because she doesn't like anyone enough to endorse so by golly she just might have to jump in. The new reality show must not have panned out.

Edited: sorry, Crosschuck. We were on the same wave length.

Sarah Palin has proven herself to be a wishy-washy quitter, at best, and I have no use for her.


The Donald has delusions of grandeur. He is not as widely respected as he thinks.

I go to a southern evangelic church and I've seen a definite shift from the 'anybody but Obama' mentality to 'how I vote depends on who the GOP picks'.

What I'm hearing from fellow church members is that are really upset that the GOP has not found a politically competent, socially conservative candidate for them to back. Most have not been happy the parade of not-Romney candidates and they are certainly too smart to back Palin or Trump.

Surprisingly, several have said that Obama would be a better candidate for them than Gingrich because of his philandering and ethics violation back in the mid 1990s.

disneydude said:

Romney is the worlds biggest flip flopper....he makes Kerry look firm.

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Romney comes across as too WASPY, trying too hard to relate to the common folk. And he is a flip flopper like Kerry, but at least he doesn't have that, bad diarrhea Kerry expression. Kerry may be an o.k. person, but if I had to look at that sour puss expression of his as our country's president, I think I would have moved to Canada.

Frolicking Dinosaurs said:

I go to a southern evangelic church and I've seen a definite shift from the 'anybody but Obama' mentality to 'how I vote depends on who the GOP picks'.

What I'm hearing from fellow church members is that are really upset that the GOP has not found a politically competent, socially conservative candidate for them to back. Most have not been happy the parade of not-Romney candidates and they are certainly too smart to back Palin or Trump.

Surprisingly, several have said that Obama would be a better candidate for them than Gingrich because of his philandering and ethics violation back in the mid 1990s.

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Yes, that is very surprising. May I ask what church this is?

Anybody who thinks that Paul, Santorum, Bachmann, or Palin has a chance needs to go to a psychiatrist

will the psychiatric help be government funded? They'll make me believe that Obama, Newt or Romney is the right choice....no change, stay the same, more wars, more debt, go shopping, less rights...everything is ok...

Question to conservatives... if no candidate shines, would you vote for the lesser of several evils even though you don't fully support them, or would you abstain from voting?

Peter Grimm said:

We need to pick a candidate and back him/her. We can't divide our vote. Right now, we are split between Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry, and I suppose Santorum and Paul.

Romney will have 25% of the Republican vote regardless.

If the Evangelical vote remains split, Romeny will win the Republican nomination.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

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Brand loyalty could be considered anti-American. By demanding that everyone in one camp move in the same direction, you're taking away free choice.

To not even listen to what the other camp has to say; to not even consider an opposing POV, that's how ignorance starts, and festers...

Evangelical Christians don't consider Mormon to be Christian.

nonpareil said:

Romney is a "churchgoing Christian" - he believes in Christ, that makes him Christian, I think he goes to church as much as Gingrich probably.

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Peter Grimm said:

Evangelical Christians don't consider Mormon to be Christian.

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Why not? And so what if he's not your kind of Christian? He's a good family man who seems to have lived his life according to Christian values, as well being intelligent and competent, why wouldn't you vote for such a person?

Christianity is a tradition that is 2000 years old and hasn't changed.

Mormonism includes a "book of mormon" written by an American "prophet" from upstate New York, Joseph Smith, who read the words written on some gold pages with a pair of magical spectacles.

People are free to vote for whoever they want, and believe whatever they want... but as Evangelical Christians, many of the teachings are troubling to say the least.

In short, here are some of the striking differences between Mormon and traditional Christian teachings...


- Mormons believe that there are many gods who rule the many planets

- Mormons believe that our God has a name, Elohim, has parents, and has a body

- Mormons believe that our God, Elhoim, lives on a star called Kolob

- Mormons believe that Jesus won an election over Satan where all the gods voted what to do with man

- Mormons believe that blacks are cursed with black skin because they didn't fight against satan

- Mormons believe that people who fought against the demons were blessed with white skin

- Mormons believe that Elohim had sex with the virgin mary to give Jesus a body

- Mormons believe that Jesus had 3 wives, and that Joseph Smith is a direct descendent of Jesus

- Mormons believe that Jesus came and preached to the Indians and that the Indians are really Israelites

- Mormons hope that by good works, they can become polygamous Gods and rule over planets

- Mormons believe that Joseph Smith, Jesus, and Elohim will sit in judgement on judgement day

- Mormons believe that Joseph Smith died as a martyr, shed his blood for us, so that we too may become gods

nonpareil said:

Why not? And so what if he's not your kind of Christian? He's a good family man who seems to have lived his life according to Christian values, as well being intelligent and competent, why wouldn't you vote for such a person?

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