BO has pretty much ticked off everybody.....well played chump

nota bene · Dec 16, 2011

StillBallin75 said:
Yeah...don't think for a second that just because Obama is facing increasing disapproval that his disgruntled supporters will suddenly start voting Romney or Gingrich.

Good point.

My guess is that those who are party members are pretty locked in. It's the independents, I think who will provide the "swing."

AdamT · Dec 16, 2011

LaMidRighter said:
You would think that, partisans tend to see what they want to. You missed way too many places where I gave Obama a break in this thread alone, but it's okay because I know you need a conservative boogeyman instead of facing the fail that is Obama.

You're funny.

Wrong CA. Solyndra was passed on because of financial instability by the previous admn. and adopted by Obama, that's his baby. Corzine is his own **** up so I don't hit Obama with that, the housing issue very much was a Democrat failure dating back to the Carter administration but exacerbated by current Democrat policy, Obama could have brought some of those back and relaxed the regulations that created financial problems, he and the last congress added more regulations which increased cost, Obama owns that. The energy problems within the U.S. are a hybrid past/present problem but the failed ideas of the past are the only ones being applied, Obama owns that. The China problem is current, we are not addressing the issue properly, Obama owns that. The debt is unsustainable, Obama has spent more than any other president, he owns that.

So how 'bout we fact check your fair and balanced, nonpartisan roll:

Solyndra: Bush passed on it? Um, actually the Bush administration moved the loan process forward for three years. Starting in 2007, Solyndra was one of 16 companies approved to begin the due diligence process. As late as January 2009 the Bush administration tried to push the Solyndra loan through, taking it before a DOE review committee. The committee remanded it back to DOE without prejudice because it wasn't ready to commit.

The houseing issue -- all Democratic? Seriously? There were three Republican presidents in office for 20 years between Carter and the housing meltdown. What did they do to fix the alleged problems Carter caused? The key legislation that contributed to the meltdown was Gramm Leach Blilely and the Commidities Futures Modernization Act, all authored by Republicans. The housing bubble was fueld by Greenspan's loose money supply and Bush's tax cuts. Under Bush, the OCC specifically preempted states from enforcing their predatory lending laws. In the six years leading up to the crisis we had a Republican White House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House of Representatives. But yeah ... it was an all Democratic problem. Glad to see that you're not hyperpartisan. :lol:

Not even sure what you mean about "failed energy ideas" so I'll pass over that....

Also not sure what you think Obama should be doing about "the China problem", though it might be worth mentioning that the Ambassador to China is running for President on the Republican side.

Obama owns the debt? Most of it was run up by Reagan and Bush, and their combined malfeasance left Obama with a situation in which he couldn't cut spending if he wanted to without sending the economy into an outright depression.

So yeah -- sell that bull**** to the Tea Party. I'm sure they'd eat it up.

TurtleDude · Dec 16, 2011

Captain America said:
I'm pissed at Obama for not shoving it up the GOP's ass like he was elected, by a HUGE majority I might add, to do.

But that doesn't mean I would vote republican. That would be like cutting my nose off to spite my face.

And since, most likely, no one on the democrat side will run against Obama, it looks like we're stuck with him for 4 more years.

The best we can hope for is that American voters have learned their lesson about voting republican and they give the majority of congress back to democrats and that Obama will have learned by now that there is no point in trying to work with those GOP pricks and instead of extending the olive branch as he did in the past, he shoves it up their ass instead..

so what things would the GOP cut your nose off over

seems to me there are a few valid reasons to vote for Obastard

1) you are rich because of the dems-plaintiffs lawyers, union bosses etc

2) you are gay

3) you are dependent on the government.

Rhapsody1447 · Dec 16, 2011

Captain America said:
Well, then can I assume you would not hesitate to bet money that Obama will lose the next election?

IF Romney gets the nomination I'll bet you $100 he wins the office. Loser donates to the opposing party and has to show proof (screenshot of the receipt).

iguanaman · Dec 16, 2011

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LaMidRighter said:
Wrong CA. Solyndra was passed on because of financial instability by the previous admn. and adopted by Obama, that's his baby. Corzine is his own **** up so I don't hit Obama with that, the housing issue very much was a Democrat failure dating back to the Carter administration but exacerbated by current Democrat policy, Obama could have brought some of those back and relaxed the regulations that created financial problems, he and the last congress added more regulations which increased cost, Obama owns that. The energy problems within the U.S. are a hybrid past/present problem but the failed ideas of the past are the only ones being applied, Obama owns that. The China problem is current, we are not addressing the issue properly, Obama owns that. The debt is unsustainable, Obama has spent more than any other president, he owns that.

I'm new here but I couldn't help but pounce on your statement that the Subprime Housing Bubble was a Democratic failure. That is patently wrong. CRA loans had nothing to do with Subprime mortgages which didn't even exist until 2001. The subprime bubble was a scam run by the Commercial banks to bilk billions out of investors and homeowners. It occured almost entirely under a Republican Administration with GOP majorities in both Houses. GW Bush himself sold $440 BILLION worth of the banks subprime garbage to Fannie Mae in 2002. The Dems couldn't have stopped it if they tried.
Fannie and Freddie were just another investor for the banks to swindle. GW Bush himself turned bankers shill and boasted that he got Fannie to commit to 440 Billion $ to buy the new subprimes in his 2002 "Minority Housing Initiative Program." He even evoked 911 and promised that the plan would "turn incredible evil into incredible good," I swear, I'm not making that up. Heres GW himself with the bit about Fannie in 2002 but read the whole speech.....it's a hoot.

And so, therefore, I've called -- yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I'm proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it's about $440 billion over a period of time. They've used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we're talking about here. It's in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.

Can you believe he actually said "It's in their charter, it NOW needs to be implemented"? If you know why?, it all will make sense.

AdamT · Dec 17, 2011

TurtleDude said:
so what things would the GOP cut your nose off over

seems to me there are a few valid reasons to vote for Obastard

1) you are rich because of the dems-plaintiffs lawyers, union bosses etc

2) you are gay

3) you are dependent on the government

4) you like to breathe clean air and drink clean water

5) you don't think that Wall Street will regulate themselves out of the goodness of their own hearts

6) you don't want to spend another couple or three trillion dollars rebuilding some ME ****hole

7) you don't want the government telling you who you can marry or what you can do with your own body

8) you think the economy works better when there aren't just a lot of poor people and a handful of bazillionaires

9) you don't want America to be a laughingstock

10) you don't think that scientists are engaging in a global conspiracy to hoodwink the public

11) you want a leader who is principled and intelligent and not a pandering ken doll or a raving lunatic.

Well said.

LaMidRighter · Dec 17, 2011

AdamT said:
You're funny.

And smart, and very good looking. Thanks for noticing.

So how 'bout we fact check your fair and balanced, nonpartisan roll:

Solyndra: Bush passed on it? Um, actually the Bush administration moved the loan process forward for three years. Starting in 2007, Solyndra was one of 16 companies approved to begin the due diligence process. As late as January 2009 the Bush administration tried to push the Solyndra loan through, taking it before a DOE review committee. The committee remanded it back to DOE without prejudice because it wasn't ready to commit.

The Bush administration accepted an application, did not issue the loan. Weekly Standard: Solyndra Debacle? Blame Bush : NPR Obama's admn. passed the loan. You lose.

The houseing issue -- all Democratic? Seriously? There were three Republican presidents in office for 20 years between Carter and the housing meltdown. What did they do to fix the alleged problems Carter caused?

Good point, Reagan tried and both parties blocked serious efforts. H.W did nothing, Clinton sat on the problem, and few Republicans did anything between the Congress and G.W. but they didn't "cause the problem" as many would have you believe, I stated the root cause was Carter and no one, including Obama addressed it. Here is the point, it wasn't a crisis under Carter, Bush I, Clinton, or Bush II until the bubble burst in 2006. Tarp was passed that year which did nothing good as predicted, so Obama's answer was Tarp II, Tarp III, Quantitative easing, etc. which did not work. Nice try, but you lose again.

The key legislation that contributed to the meltdown was Gramm Leach Blilely and the Commidities Futures Modernization Act, all authored by Republicans. The housing bubble was fueld by Greenspan's loose money supply and Bush's tax cuts. Under Bush, the OCC specifically preempted states from enforcing their predatory lending laws. In the six years leading up to the crisis we had a Republican White House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House of Representatives. But yeah ... it was an all Democratic problem. Glad to see that you're not hyperpartisan. :lol:

Funny that you are the only person who asserts this, considering that most economists don't try to pin it on any one policy. But hey, go ahead and blame republicans in a partisan way, you're good at it.

Not even sure what you mean about "failed energy ideas" so I'll pass over that....

Think on it and come back to me, I'll wait.

Also not sure what you think Obama should be doing about "the China problem", though it might be worth mentioning that the Ambassador to China is running for President on the Republican side.

Let's see, how about deregulating so that manufacturing comes back to the U.S. for starters, then holding China to fairly valuing it's currency, stopping the devaluation of the U.S. Dollar, and getting fiscal policy in check so as to start paying the principle on debt owed to that nation. That should be a priority.

Obama owns the debt?

About 4 trillion $ of it yes.

Most of it was run up by Reagan and Bush, and their combined malfeasance left Obama with a situation in which he couldn't cut spending if he wanted to without sending the economy into an outright depression.

Total bull****, the U.S. debt has existed in current form since around the Mexican American war, it has been exacerbated under various presidents but especially so under Bush and critically under Obama. There is no spin on this it's economic fact.

So yeah -- sell that bull**** to the Tea Party. I'm sure they'd eat it up.

And an attack on people I don't affiliate with but have done nothing to you. Why would I take you seriously after that.

upsideguy · Dec 17, 2011

Hatuey said:
What is hilarious is your complete disconnect from the political reality. Reagan himself would have to come out of his grave for the GOP to beat Obama in 2012. Your two main contenders are a flip flopper and a guy who was convicted of ethic violations and resigned from his position because of it. Bonne chance ma belle.

Yep, he is pretty much running unopposed.

upsideguy · Dec 17, 2011

Rhapsody1447 said:
IF Romney gets the nomination I'll bet you $100 he wins the office. Loser donates to the opposing party and has to show proof (screenshot of the receipt).

Sorry, the current bet is $10,000. You can raise or call, otherwise you can not play.

Rhapsody1447 · Dec 17, 2011

upsideguy said:
Sorry, the current bet is $10,000. You can raise or call, otherwise you can not play.

Wasn't talking to haymarket, I was quoting Captain America. Are you willing to take me up on it? Or is $100 too rich for your blue blood?

jasonxe · Dec 17, 2011

Rhapsody1447 said:
Wasn't talking to haymarket, I was quoting Captain America. Are you willing to take me up on it? Or is $100 too rich for your blue blood?

The only money i got is monopoly money....in a couple of years, they'll both be worth the same :-D

Wiseone · Dec 17, 2011

apdst said:
I can't wait to see Obama get 20% of the popular vote. That's going to be hillarious! "lamo

You know thats never happened in the history of the United States when the Presidential race was between only two major competitors, and the closest its come to being 20% is the election of 1804 when Thomas Jefferson beat some fellow named Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, who lost with 27% of the popular vote. And let me tell you, no one on the Republican ticket is going to be the next Thomas Jefferson.

Where do you get these predictions? Pull yourself out of your fantasy world and take a look at reality, I know you hate it but its whats happening man.

Jetboogieman · Dec 17, 2011

Captain America said:
I'm pissed at Obama for not shoving it up the GOP's ass like he was elected, by a HUGE majority I might add, to do.

But that doesn't mean I would vote republican. That would be like cutting my nose off to spite my face.

And since, most likely, no one on the democrat side will run against Obama, it looks like we're stuck with him for 4 more years.

The best we can hope for is that American voters have learned their lesson about voting republican and they give the majority of congress back to democrats and that Obama will have learned by now that there is no point in trying to work with those GOP pricks and instead of extending the olive branch as he did in the past, he shoves it up their ass instead..

Complain that the Republicans don't compromise enough.

Then tell your side to go tell their side to shove olive branches up their sides...

Oh forget it.

lpast · Dec 17, 2011

LaMidRighter said:
Versus a loudmouthed moron with no provable successes without a huge assist. Let's see, health bill: not fully implemented and already failing beyond all worst case expectations. Iraq pullout: Set in motion by the previous admn. Bin Laden dead: Set in motion by previous policies, Afghanistan: NATO failure so this is not to be pinned on U.S. policy. Fast and Furious: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good luck spinning that one. EPA out of control: Democrat party. Food prices rising: Democrat ethanol policy. Financial meltdown: Carter policies led to bubble with Obama continuing the fail.

I can do this all day...........

If your going to try to give bush credit for everything...then he needs the BLAME for starting this economic meltdown were in. He started Iraq in the first place...and youve been paying for Obamacare all along...we all were because the uninsured still get health care a myriad of other ways including just going to any emergency rooms and that includes illegal immigrants.
If the republicans are so against obamacare because its to expensive to pay for americans with no healthcare...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!! arent all of them screaming about how expensive it is for us to all PAY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS healthcare and childbirth...please this is a two way street not one...

AdamT · Dec 17, 2011

LaMidRighter said:
The Bush administration accepted an application, did not issue the loan. Weekly Standard: Solyndra Debacle? Blame Bush : NPR Obama's admn. passed the loan. You lose.

Obama gets more credit, but you can't absolve Bush as he created the program and kept pushing Solyndra long after they should have been dropped.

Good point, Reagan tried and both parties blocked serious efforts. H.W did nothing, Clinton sat on the problem, and few Republicans did anything between the Congress and G.W. but they didn't "cause the problem" as many would have you believe, I stated the root cause was Carter and no one, including Obama addressed it. Here is the point, it wasn't a crisis under Carter, Bush I, Clinton, or Bush II until the bubble burst in 2006. Tarp was passed that year which did nothing good as predicted, so Obama's answer was Tarp II, Tarp III, Quantitative easing, etc. which did not work. Nice try, but you lose again.

Carter had literally nothing to do with it. The CRA myth has been squashed repeatedly -- no need to re-cover that ground. Reagan started the ball rolling as far as breaking down depression-era bank regulations, which is what caused this crisis. Phil Gramm put the last nail in the coffin with bills that repealed Glass-Steagall and made it effectively impossible to regulate derivatives. Clinton signed off on them, so he gets a healthy share of the blame. And lastly, W. gets a healthy share of the blame for failing to react to the ensuing explosion in derivatives trading and the related inflation of the real estate bubble, all fueled by loose money supply and tax cuts. If I had to break down responsibility for the financial crisis between the parties I'd put it at something like 70% Republicans, 30% Democrats.

As far as the emergency spending measures go, they certainly did work insofar as they prevented the total collapse of our banking system and a steep slide into a full-scale depression.

Funny that you are the only person who asserts this, considering that most economists don't try to pin it on any one policy. But hey, go ahead and blame republicans in a partisan way, you're good at it.
Think on it and come back to me, I'll wait.

You need to read more if you think that I'm the only one who understands the root causes of the meltdown.

Let's see, how about deregulating so that manufacturing comes back to the U.S. for starters,

Manufacturing never left the U.S., for starters. We manufacture more now than we ever have. It's simply less labor intensive than it used to be thanks to computers and robotic assembly. As far as more labor-intensive work, we could repeal every regulation on the books and we still wouldn't be competitive China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.

then holding China to fairly valuing it's currency, stopping the devaluation of the U.S. Dollar, and getting fiscal policy in check so as to start paying the principle on debt owed to that nation. That should be a priority.

Both Bush and Obama have tried to that, but it's easier said than done.

About 4 trillion $ of it yes. Total bull****, the U.S. debt has existed in current form since around the Mexican American war, it has been exacerbated under various presidents but especially so under Bush and critically under Obama. There is no spin on this it's economic fact.

Debt as a percentage of GDP fell consistently from WWII until Reagan's presidency, when it began to expode as a result of drastic tax cuts that were not offset with spending cuts. If the top effective tax rate had never been reduced from its 1986 level -- with no other changes -- the debt in 2008 would have been under $2 trillion rather than $11 trilion. That, according Reagan's senior economic policy advisor, Bruce Bartlett. Likewise, if Bush had not rolled back Clinton's rates the debt would be far lower. Obama, on the other hand, is doing what's necessary to prevent a depression.[/QUOTE]

Conservative · Dec 17, 2011

Captain America said:
I'm pissed at Obama for not shoving it up the GOP's ass like he was elected, by a HUGE majority I might add, to do.

But that doesn't mean I would vote republican. That would be like cutting my nose off to spite my face.

And since, most likely, no one on the democrat side will run against Obama, it looks like we're stuck with him for 4 more years.

The best we can hope for is that American voters have learned their lesson about voting republican and they give the majority of congress back to democrats and that Obama will have learned by now that there is no point in trying to work with those GOP pricks and instead of extending the olive branch as he did in the past, he shoves it up their ass instead..

Why would anyone vote for this arrogant pompous ass

60 Minutes Broadcast Edits Out Laughable Obama Claim as 4th Best President | NewsBusters.org

Obama won the election with about 53% of the popular vote and now his JAR is 42% according to Gallup meaning he has lost 11% of that support. Seems that the American people are waking up to the results even if his current supporters aren't

LaMidRighter · Dec 17, 2011

lpast said:
If your going to try to give bush credit for everything...then he needs the BLAME for starting this economic meltdown were in.

You really need to stop passing along Pelosi/Reid/Obama talking points. The seeds for the collapse were sewn particularly in the seventies with the community reinvestment act, but the willfull ignorance of good governance pre-dates even Wilson, though he did his best to speed up extre constitutional governance. I don't really feel like going into great detail but look up the abuses by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, and the economics behind the Community Reinvestment act from the late seventies through today. It wasn't Bush.

He started Iraq in the first place...and youve been paying for Obamacare all along...we all were because the uninsured still get health care a myriad of other ways including just going to any emergency rooms and that includes illegal immigrants.

More crap. Iraq was gonna happen sooner or later, we never truly had a complete exit after that country after Desert Storm. While we didn't maintain bases there we were constantly having to back up U.N. resolutions and NATO actions with bombings. The timing is fine for debate but we were going in. Obamacare is garbage and there is no counterspin. this ridiculous argument about "well we all pay anyway........." is about as informed as the talking point sheet that came from the DNC. Medicine is the most overregulated sector of the market followed by health insurance, that is where your costs come from and the most or those regs were passed in the last 40 years, mainly under Democrat congresses. You don't get to pass that off as an Obamacare justification because that turd just added 2,000 more pages of overregulation. It is already failing and isn't even fully implemented.

If the republicans are so against obamacare because its to expensive to pay for americans with no healthcare...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!! arent all of them screaming about how expensive it is for us to all PAY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS healthcare and childbirth...please this is a two way street not one...

I don't have an answer for that and frankly don't understand, but hey, medical overregulation IS owned by the Democrat party.

LaMidRighter · Dec 17, 2011

AdamT said:
Obama gets more credit, but you can't absolve Bush as he created the program and kept pushing Solyndra long after they should have been dropped.

Under the program Solyndra had a right to apply, which they did. They were not accepted as a bad financial risk until _____________ got into office.
Multiple choice:
a) George W. Bush
b) Barack Obama
c) Bill Clinton
d) James K. Polk

Being that ____________ was president at the time that means that ________________ gets the blame for signing a bad loan to a bad company correct? I love how partisans are willing to suspend logic to support their jackass. You lose.

Carter had literally nothing to do with it. The CRA myth has been squashed repeatedly -- no need to re-cover that ground. Reagan started the ball rolling as far as breaking down depression-era bank regulations, which is what caused this crisis. Phil Gramm put the last nail in the coffin with bills that repealed Glass-Steagall and made it effectively impossible to regulate derivatives. Clinton signed off on them, so he gets a healthy share of the blame. And lastly, W. gets a h eealthy share of the blame for failing to react to the ensuing explosion in derivatives trading and the related inflation of the real estate bubble, all fueled by loose money supply and tax cuts. If I had to break down responsibility for the financial crisis between the parties I'd put it at something like 70% Republicans, 30% Democrats.

HAHAHAHA. Smashed repeatedly. That's a good one. Seriously, everything that was abused can be traced directly back to the Community Reinvestment act. You want to believe what you want to believe though I guess.

As far as the emergency spending measures go, they certainly did work insofar as they prevented the total collapse of our banking system and a steep slide into a full-scale depression.

You need to read more if you think that I'm the only one who understands the root causes of the meltdown.

Manufacturing never left the U.S., for starters. We manufacture more now than we ever have. It's simply less labor intensive than it used to be thanks to computers and robotic assembly. As far as more labor-intensive work, we could repeal every regulation on the books and we still wouldn't be competitive China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.

Both Bush and Obama have tried to that, but it's easier said than done.

Debt as a percentage of GDP fell consistently from WWII until Reagan's presidency, when it began to expode as a result of drastic tax cuts that were not offset with spending cuts. If the top effective tax rate had never been reduced from its 1986 level -- with no other changes -- the debt in 2008 would have been under $2 trillion rather than $11 trilion. That, according Reagan's senior economic policy advisor, Bruce Bartlett. Likewise, if Bush had not rolled back Clinton's rates the debt would be far lower. Obama, on the other hand, is doing what's necessary to prevent a depression.

I'm just going to go ahead and dismiss you now without fully reading this because frankly I've seen all this garbage before written prettier and crushed it already.

Mr. Invisible · Dec 17, 2011

LaMidRighter said:
Versus a loudmouthed moron with no provable successes without a huge assist. Let's see, health bill: not fully implemented and already failing beyond all worst case expectations. Iraq pullout: Set in motion by the previous admn. Bin Laden dead: Set in motion by previous policies, Afghanistan: NATO failure so this is not to be pinned on U.S. policy. Fast and Furious: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good luck spinning that one. EPA out of control: Democrat party. Food prices rising: Democrat ethanol policy. Financial meltdown: Carter policies led to bubble with Obama continuing the fail.

I can do this all day...........

You really are disconnected from reality. The killing of OBL was due to the work of Clinton, Bush, and Obama. I can tell that you have no idea what you are talking about when you contribute the financial crisis to Carter. That is completely and totally contradictory to the reality of the situation.

LaMidRighter · Dec 17, 2011

Mr. Invisible said:
You really are disconnected from reality. The killing of OBL was due to the work of Clinton, Bush, and Obama. I can tell that you have no idea what you are talking about when you contribute the financial crisis to Carter. That is completely and totally contradictory to the reality of the situation.

Point 1. Clinton passed on OBL in the '90s, OBL made the statement that the U.S. is a "paper tiger" following. Bush didn't consider OBL a serious target until after the 9/11 attacks which happened after _________ passed on OBL in the 19___s. Bush intelligence tactics were still used in 2011 after his term on a courier which led to the location of a safehouse in Pakistan where president ____________ ordered Seal Team __ to take out _______.

Do you need multiple choice as well?

Point 2: If you don't know the Carter presidency and it's economic failings there is no way I can accurately catch you up on it so you'll just have to do the research. I can tell you many of his policies have returned under the current jackass.

AdamT · Dec 17, 2011

Mr. Invisible said:
You really are disconnected from reality. The killing of OBL was due to the work of Clinton, Bush, and Obama. I can tell that you have no idea what you are talking about when you contribute the financial crisis to Carter. That is completely and totally contradictory to the reality of the situation.

The dude regurgitating right wing talking points. Not worth debating.

Crosscheck · Dec 17, 2011

conservativeguy said:
Looking at this poll it appears the Chosen One has dropped back to earth and is now an irritating carnival barker. 13 out of 18 demographic groups view him as a failure.

Where Obama Has Slipped - 2012 Decoded

To lose the election the Republicans are going to need a candidate first. That is your problem.

Your once front runner, the Sandusky of politics, has already had his butt drop kicked to the sidewalk.

The twins, Sarah and Michelle, are nothing but glorified cheerleaders.

What do you have left? No Borders Gingrich, Weather Vane Romney, or Thought Challenged Perry.

My pick is you go with Perry. It was a hoot watching him debate in the Republican debate so one can only imagine how great it will be in a presidential debate.

So who are you going with?

Captain America · Dec 17, 2011

AdamT said:
Here's what it comes down to.... You ready? Okay. The economy is bad. That's why people are saying they're less than pleased with Obama. Doesn't matter if he's done everything he can do to fix it, or really what he's done -- as long as it's bad people are going to be displeased. That's a problem. OTOH, people are also pissed off at Repbulicans, and they aren't too happy with the GOP options, either. Most people understand that we're in this mess because of the last administration, and they aren't happy that Republicans in Congress are acting like a bunch of assholes instead of trying to fix things.

That's where we stand.

Thank you

Absolutely. In a nutshell.

I don't think I could have put it any better myself.

If we were at the bar, I'd buy you a drink sir.

Nice to see that SOMEBODY "gets it."

Nobody knows better than the republicans that Americans think with their pocket books. I believe they are counting on this to regain power. I can see no other reason for their ongoing assault on the middle classes and obstructive filibustering and resistance to any measure that might improve the situation.

Party first. Screw you and me. As long as the rich are getting richer and the "campaign contributions" keep coming in, you and I can go to hell.

Captain America · Dec 17, 2011

apdst said:
AdamT said:

Well, everything Obama has touched has turned to ****, so far.

Click to expand...

You should be more careful who you shake hands with next time. LOL!

Just kidding. Merry Christmas.

TurtleDude · Dec 17, 2011

AdamT said:
Well said.

changing people's posts is rather dishonest

BO has pretty much ticked off everybody.....well played chump

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