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PPP Iowa & Rasmussen NH Polling

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According to Public Policy Polling’s most recent survey of likely Iowa caucus-goers, the current numbers are:

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Gingrich 22%
Paul 21%
Romney 16%
Bachmann 11%
Perry 9%
Santorum 8%
Huntsman 5%
Johnson 1%

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In New Hampshire, Rasmussen is reporting these numbers:


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Mitt Romney 33% (-1)
 34% 41% 39%
New Gingrich 22% (-2)
 24% 8% 4%
Ron Paul 18% (+4)
 14% 11% 13%
John Huntsman 10% 11% 7% 7%
Herman Cain Withdrew 5% 17% 4%
Rick Perry 3% 2% 4% 18%
Michele Bachmann 3% 2% 3% 5%
Rick Santorum 3% 1% 1% 2%
Some other candidate 2% 1% 2% 3%
Not sure 5% 6% 5% 4%
 
GOOOO Newt!!
 
At least they're all spending money, stimulating the economy.

None of them have a chance of becoming President.

But they'll redistribute some wealth along the way.
 
I hope Ron Paul wins Iowa. Not because I particularly like him, but I really want to see both Gingrich and Romney lose to him. Would be hugely damaging to both of them, and it would be harder to frame the election as a two-man race between two sub-par candidates anymore.

I'm still holding out hope for Huntsman, myself (five whole percents in that PPP poll! Momentum!).
 
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Dav said:
I hope Ron Paul wins Iowa. Not because I particularly like him, but I really want to see both Gingrich and Romney lose to him. Would be hugely damaging to both of them, and it would be harder to frame the election as a two-man race between two sub-par candidates anymore.

I'm still holding out hope for Huntsman, myself (five whole percents in that PPP poll! Momentum!).
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I'm actually pulling for Paul there too because it definitely hurts both the front runners and opens this thing up. If Paul wins Iowa and Huntsman has a top 3 showing in New Hampshire I actually think it could get rather interesting.

I was rather shocked to see the 5% up tick on Huntsman in Iowa given how much he's ignored that state. He has no chance of finishing top 3 but it was still a good sign. Him still be stuck at 10% in New Hampshire however isn't a good sign.
 
Zyphlin said:
I'm actually pulling for Paul there too because it definitely hurts both the front runners and opens this thing up. If Paul wins Iowa and Huntsman has a top 3 showing in New Hampshire I actually think it could get rather interesting.

I was rather shocked to see the 5% up tick on Huntsman in Iowa given how much he's ignored that state. He has no chance of finishing top 3 but it was still a good sign. Him still be stuck at 10% in New Hampshire however isn't a good sign.
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You should check this out if you haven't already: Jon Huntsman's Path to Victory - NYTimes.com
 
Ron Paul will end up being the single factor that gives O-bummer another 4 years.
 
Thanks for the good read. I think he's rather spot on and part of it seems in line with what I've figured his path for victory would be.
 
Mitt Romney continues to lead the New Hampshire Republican Presidential Preference Primary with 35%. Jumping into second place is Ron Paul with 21%. Newt Gingrich is now in third place with 16% and Jon Huntsman is in fourth place with 13%.

American Research Group


Iowa: Romney 23%, Gingrich 20%, Paul 18%

For the fifth straight survey, the GOP field has a new frontrunner in Iowa.

Iowa: Romney 23%, Gingrich 20%, Paul 18% - Rasmussen Reports™
 
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Looks like Newt's 15 minutes are rapidly drawing to a close....
 
coolwalker said:
Ron Paul will end up being the single factor that gives O-bummer another 4 years.
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That seems to be the common sentiment, and by common I mean that t.v. talking heads are commonly spouting it, not ordinary people. The fact is, this election hinders on who the GOP chooses to nominate. If Dr. Paul wins Iowa and NH, and alot of other states, it would be extremely idiotic for them to nominate someone else. If they do choose somneone else, they are practically gift wrapping the election for Obama. If the Republicans keep burning their bridges with Ron Paul; keep making fun of his policies, they will be digging their own graves, as Ron Paul has the most enthusiastic base, and his supporters will not forget the harsh treatement that the GOP gave him, and will not side with them in the election.

But again, we're talking about the party of pre-emptive wars and of the Patriot Act, both of which Ron Paul vehemently opposes. If they would nominate him, they'd be forced to admit that all of those policies were mistakes, and I don't know if they want to let that genie out of the bottle, given all of the US soldiers who died for that "mistake." I think they'd rather hold their noses and reluctantly endure 4 more years of Obama. I hope I am wrong.

This election all hinders on what the GOP chooses to do; they decide if Obama serves another term. The ball is in their court.
 
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The only way Paul can influence this election is if he runs as an independent, and then he would throw the election to Obama.
 
The Iowa Caucus is not an election. Only those willing to spend 3 hours or so even matter and it estimated over 50% are "evangelical Christians" - many bused in by their churches.

Ron Paul is the most anti-abortion candidate of all, having in the past claimed abortions are murder to be criminally prosecuted, a 100% anti-abortion rights voting record, proposing federal legislation to declare "life begins at conception" as a matter of legal, civil and constitutional rights to the fetus and so forth.

He wants the constitution amended to allow school prayer, wants the federal government to pay tuition to private Christian schools, and has voted to ban gays from adopting children. He supports "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" - meaning openly gay members of the military are removed from the military. Ron Paul has declared that English should be the only language allowed and government should be banned from ever using any other language. He favors a fence, opposes foreign students and is extremely anti-anyone coming to the USA.

While what some call mainstream or moderate (and I would say semi-normal) Republicans debate over Romney or Gingrich, the anti-abortion, anti-gays, anti-immigrants, America-is-Christian evangelicals are deciding between Paul, Bachman and Santorum. The most extreme Christian Rightwing extremist in terms of voting record and statements is clearly Ron Paul, therefore he is surging with the evangelical Republican rightwing in Iowa.

Remember, Iowa nominated a Baptist minister for the Republican candidate last time. The most rightwing Christian on religious/social issues wins the Republican primaries in Iowa. So Ron Paul may well win.

Onward Christian soldiers marching as to war. At least for a moment, Ron Paul and some Iowa evangelical Christians can pretend they will some day be able to obtain executing women who had an abortion for the crime of 1st degree murder. The dream won't last past Iowa. Not this election season anyway.

His views - and votes - about women also might be why the overwhelming majority of his supporters are men. It also likely why all commentators claim he has no chance against Obama. If Ron Paul ever becomes a real potential candidate, issues such as above become the issues - not just his claiming he is a strict constitutionalist wanting to limit government power. On his religious values, he's a control freak when it comes to government. The true morality dictator over individuals.
 
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AdamT said:
The only way Paul can influence this election is if he runs as an independent, and then he would throw the election to Obama.
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How can you be so sure. Ron Paul has the ability to attract support from all sides of the spectrum. Whose to say he won't steal a portion of Obama support?
 
Because essentially no Democrats are radical Christian rightwingers on individual rights, women's rights, gay rights, school prayer, government paying for religious schools and other social issues?
 
Dav said:
I hope Ron Paul wins Iowa. Not because I particularly like him, but I really want to see both Gingrich and Romney lose to him. Would be hugely damaging to both of them, and it would be harder to frame the election as a two-man race between two sub-par candidates anymore.

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Iowa already has a reputation as being nearly worthless in actually picking a viable nominee. If Ron Paul were to win that would take it from nearly worthless to completely worthless. Go for it.
 
The Prophet said:
How can you be so sure. Ron Paul has the ability to attract support from all sides of the spectrum. Whose to say he won't steal a portion of Obama support?
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Paul is the most conservative candidate ever to run for office. He makes Goldwater look like a raging pinko. He might draw a few Dems who are just fed up with the whole system, or who don't get what he's up to, but they would be outnumbered by far by conservative independents and Republicans who would otherwise vote for the Republican.
 
The Prophet said:
I dare you to prove this. I call BS.
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For one, every person on this forum who is outspoken for Paul identifies himself as male.

Oh, PS>...

Donor Demographics by Gender | OpenSecrets

84% men - Ron Paul supporters.

Given women are 52% of voters who vote in November...

There aren't enough angry white men in the USA for Ron Paul to have a chance.
 
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AdamT said:
Paul is the most conservative candidate ever to run for office. He makes Goldwater look like a raging pinko. He might draw a few Dems who are just fed up with the whole system, or who don't get what he's up to, but they would be outnumbered by far by conservative independents and Republicans who would otherwise vote for the Republican.
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Goldwater endorses Paul :-D ^^
 
haymarket said:
Iowa already has a reputation as being nearly worthless in actually picking a viable nominee. If Ron Paul were to win that would take it from nearly worthless to completely worthless. Go for it.
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You should be proud. You and Chris Wallace at Fox agree on something.
 
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