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Obama takes shovel from Perry

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So what is he going to do about white unemployment?

Hispanic unemployment?

Asian unemployment?

Klingon unemployement?


News from The Associated Press


This should backfire on him significantly if he keeps it up.

The mostest scariestest part is his statement about going around Congress.

Narcissist beyond description.



Big Al
 
It's only a problem for BO if the mainstream media covers his deplorable and inexcusable comments. He knows the vast majority of the news industry has his back so he can say whatever the hell he thinks his audience wants to hear.
 
conservativeguy said:
It's only a problem for BO if the mainstream media covers his deplorable and inexcusable comments. He knows the vast majority of the news industry has his back so he can say whatever the hell he thinks his audience wants to hear.
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So since Fox has the greatest ratings, they have his back?

Bizzaro world.

Oh and the unemployment rate for blacks is 15%. I want him to address this. If the Klingon unemployment rate was that high, I would want him to address this as well. :cool:
 
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Zona said:
So since Fox has the greatest ratings, they have his back?

Bizzaro world.

Oh and the unemployment rate for blacks is 15%. I want him to address this. If the Klingon unemployment rate was that high, I would want him to address this as well. :cool:
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The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
 
Zona said:
Oh and the unemployment rate for blacks is 15%. I want him to address this. If the Klingon unemployment rate was that high, I would want him to address this as well. :cool:
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In a nation where we strive, at least in the aggregate (and most certainly among the left) to end racial inequality; how is this action by the President anything other than divisive?

What exactly, can/should he do for/about black unemployment?

Note: you do understand that this is electioneering on his part, and not anything genuine with respect to giving a true hoot about black unemployment???


Big Al
 
danarhea said:
The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
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So 9% unemployment is not obama's fault.
 
99percenter said:
So 9% unemployment is not obama's fault.
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I never said it was. I merely stated that my own unemployment rate is 0%, for reasons I gave in my last post.
 
danarhea said:
The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
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Yes. Good! What job did you lose? What did you find? Basically how? Thanks.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Yes. Good! What job did you lose? What did you find? Basically how? Thanks.
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Managed an air conditioning company. Now I am managing another air conditioning company. Just kept putting my foot in doors and telling owners what I could do for them. Took me a while, as I am 61 years old, but I did it, in spite of a few people asking me why don't I just retire.
 
Zona said:
So since Fox has the greatest ratings, they have his back?

Bizzaro world.

Oh and the unemployment rate for blacks is 15%. I want him to address this. If the Klingon unemployment rate was that high, I would want him to address this as well. :cool:
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One way to reduce the unemployment rate among blacks is to create private sector jobs. This would reduce unemployment, including blacks and Klingons.
 
Zona said:
So since Fox has the greatest ratings, they have his back?

Bizzaro world.

Oh and the unemployment rate for blacks is 15%. I want him to address this. If the Klingon unemployment rate was that high, I would want him to address this as well. :cool:
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What was black unemployment when general unemployment was 4%, 5%, 6%, etc?
 
Snapper Head said:
So what is he going to do about white unemployment?

Hispanic unemployment?

Asian unemployment?

Klingon unemployement?


News from The Associated Press


This should backfire on him significantly if he keeps it up.

The mostest scariestest part is his statement about going around Congress.

Narcissist beyond description.



Big Al
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I don't get the thread title.
 
danarhea said:
The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
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Congratulations on getting a new job Dana. Unfortunately during the last 30 years the fine patriotic corporations of America has been exporting our jobs to other nations and during the last decade it has accelerated immensely. We used to be the producer of much of the world's finisheds good and were the largest creditor nation in the world, now we import much of them and are one of the largest debtor nations in the world. We as a nation are sinking while those corporations are making record profits. Sad, really sad.
 
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I don't get the thread title.
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Perry dug himself a bit of a hole last night during the debate with his episodic Azheimer's. BO grabs the shovel from him with this speech and continues to dig his own Grand Canyon. Of course, the media will focus much more on Perry's insignificant moment, rather than on the President's continued drive to divide this country along as many lines as possible, including race.


Big Al
 
@pbrauer:

Really, that's all you have? Really?

I'm so disappointed.

No wait a minute, it's expected, so I couldn't possibly be disappointed.


Big Al
 
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Unfortunately during the last 30 years the fine patriotic corporations of America has been exporting our jobs to other nations and during the last decade it has accelerated immensely. We used to be the producer of much of the world's finisheds good and were the largest creditor nation in the world, now we import much of them and are one of the largest debtor nations in the world. We as a nation are sinking while those corporations are making record profits. Sad, really sad.
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So those companies created zero jobs and zero wealth here in America?



Big Al
 
danarhea said:
I never said it was. I merely stated that my own unemployment rate is 0%, for reasons I gave in my last post.
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Well Dana, the problem is, too many people having an unemployment rate of 100% and not having any options.
 
danarhea said:
The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
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That certain people will try harder than others to get a job ignores several crucial facts.

First of all, one person getting hired for a position means that someone else won't get that position. Even as more applicants vie for the job, it's basically a zero-sum game for the unemployment rate. Regardless of how many apply, only one person is getting hired. So more people applying for jobs will not, for all intents and purposes, help the unemployment rate at all. In fact, it might artificially raise it, because it does not consider those who have given up applying.

Second, you make the classic mistake of assuming that one's situation in life is 100% under that person's control, that outside factors can be overridden solely by that one person's will. Friedrich Nietzsche might like that idea, but most rational people would concede that such a notion is ludicrous. Choice, to a much larger extent than many people realize, is an illusion.

Third, some people have a much easier time of getting back into the workforce than others. Those that can't afford a car usually have severely limited transportation options, which means less likelihood of finding a car, which means less likelihood of getting a job. And if they really want that car, they'll often have to resort to obscene interest rates, which puts them at significant risk for losing that car due to default, which could mean losing their job. And the downward cycle continues.

This is one of the fundamental problems in America, and it is one that progressives have been trying to say for years: It is much easier to get ahead when you're already ahead, and it is very easy to fall further behind when you're already behind. The work it takes just to get by when you're ahead will simply not suffice when you're behind. And this problem has gotten significantly worse in recent years.
 
This is not a new trend for BO, only a month or so ago, he created a policy to excuse school systems from requirements of no-child-left-behind if that school system made substantial efforts to improve and created new policies to improve minority education. If policies in that law are bad (a separate topic for discussion), then why only excuse them to improve minority education instead of all education?

First, exactly what gives a President the right to bypass a law passed by both houses of Congress and signed by a President?

By the way, after taking office he also issued orders to not apply some mandates in the Welfare Reform laws and also ordered Federal Prosecutors not to pursue or bring cases against people selling or buying "medical" marijuana in states that have Medical Marijuana laws.

Whatever your actual opinion of those laws are, A President bypassing Constitutionally passed laws, Having been properly voted upon in both houses and signed by a President, it sets a very bad precedent. You may approve of him actually doing this based upon your views, but by setting that precedent, it opens up the possibility that future Presidents could use the same method to bypass other laws.

Unfortunately, to hold him accountable, a Bill of Impeachment would have to be introduced and passed by the House of Representatives and then Judged and upheld by the Senate. This will not occur, even though the House is currently held by the Republicans, who probably would love to pass such a Bill, they know it would be a complete waste of time because absolutely no Democrat is going to vote to uphold the impeachment of another Democrat and the Senate that must uphold the impeachment is clearly under control of the Democrats.

Second, why would anyone believe that these actions would be good for the country as a whole? Simple, if you are one of the groups getting the special attention, then your self-interests will probably prevail. The only improvement for the whole is the overall negative numbers may drop, showing improvement and most people will only see that, the fact that it was racially based will never reach the majority of the voting public.

Third, why would BO pursue such things? If the total sum of the minorities, whose self-interests are served, exceeds the total sum of the "majority", then no matter how bad or wrong these kind of policies are, BO gets to use them to "buy" votes for him next year. Further, while Fox news may have the largest viewer-ship of any single news agency and will probably run the hell out of these kinds of things, Fox does not by itself reach more people than "liberal" media outlets like CNN, CBS, ABC, United Press, etc reach when combined. In all likelihood, only Fox viewers and those of us on political forums will ever actually hear about these issues, so these issues are not really a substantial risk to BO. Thus, BO and Democrats as a whole potentially get to look good and receive more favorable voting.
 
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Congratulations on getting a new job Dana. Unfortunately during the last 30 years the fine patriotic corporations of America has been exporting our jobs to other nations and during the last decade it has accelerated immensely. We used to be the producer of much of the world's finisheds good and were the largest creditor nation in the world, now we import much of them and are one of the largest debtor nations in the world. We as a nation are sinking while those corporations are making record profits. Sad, really sad.
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Send a thank you card to the unions, the ecoterrorists, the liberal politicians that crafted the most counterproductive tax code in history, the idiots at the Fed ....... did I miss anyone? Oh yeah, thank BO as well.....he had doubled down all all of the bad decisions, as evidenced by the true unemployment rate being closer to 20%.
 
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Well Dana, the problem is, too many people having an unemployment rate of 100% and not having any options.
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True, but I honestly believe that some people are not trying hard enough. I mean, I am 61 years old, and was on probation for a DWI that I was convicted of, before my guilty plea was withdrawn by the court, and I was still able to find work. If I can do it, under those circumstances, then I believe that just about anybody can do it. But in order to accomplish something, you have to at least try.
 
danarhea said:
The danarhea unemployment rate is 0%, and that's because I hustled and found another job when I lost mine. Yea, it was hard, but I was able to pull it off without the government helping me. Does unemployment need to be addressed? Yes it does, but IMHO, I feel that a few of the unemployed are not trying hard enough, and are relying on others to put their lives back together, instead of just doing it themselves. However, I am not without empathy. We need to take steps to reduce unemployment, but there is no feeling in the world that equals being able to say "I did this myself".
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anecdotally, a friend's son attended a local job fair at a generator manufacturer.......they will have 400 job openings, top to bottom. 1,000 people showed up.
 
liblady said:
anecdotally, a friend's son attended a local job fair at a generator manufacturer.......they will have 400 job openings, top to bottom. 1,000 people showed up.
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Those who try the hardest will get those jobs.
 
pbrauer said:
Congratulations on getting a new job Dana. Unfortunately during the last 30 years the fine patriotic corporations of America has been exporting our jobs to other nations and during the last decade it has accelerated immensely. We used to be the producer of much of the world's finisheds good and were the largest creditor nation in the world, now we import much of them and are one of the largest debtor nations in the world. We as a nation are sinking while those corporations are making record profits. Sad, really sad.
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You can't legimately blame the corporations alone. When the U.S. has enough union membership that they're able to influence entire industries to pay 1000% more than an overseas counterpart and when U.S. citizens overwhelming buy the less expensive version of most products, then both the consumers and the workers have a hand in the decisions of businesses to leave the country. This is a complex, multifold issue. To simplify it on the basis of a very blatant (here and in every other post) bias and complete ignore all other contributing factors is dishonest and warped.
 
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