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Hermann Cain - The Hits Just Keep On Coming

Aveda King is on Hannity right now discussing Herman Cain. She says liberals are resorting to gossip.
 
rocket88 said:
I just want to toot my own horn here -- I said in another thread that Cons would start playing the race card as Cain's profile rose. Sure enough....
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You say that as if the Libbos never do that.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
It's not my job to prove you wrong because you can't prove yourself right. You made a claim which you can either back up or tacitly confess you made it up from whole cloth. Choice is yours.
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I've already proven myself right when I say: there is no other proof available, other than the word of these women.

I don't know what to say about anyone that disputes that fact.
 
Herman Cain's denials seem identical to the denials of Clarence Thomas, with Anita Hill. It is important for a president to be able to tell little and big lies. But it is also a strength of charcter to be able to admit small or medium sized mistakes, rather than stonewall accusers. Herman Cain seems not to have the courage to admit even a small mistake, which to me, makes Herman Cain dangerous, and subject to blackmail.

Clarence Thomas has failed to file accurate, required income statements, and has needlessly subjected himself to a call for impeachment. Clarence Thomas is leading Herman Cain into Stupidity.

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rocket88 said:
I just want to toot my own horn here -- I said in another thread that Cons would start playing the race card as Cain's profile rose. Sure enough....
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But but but Cain said there was no rampant racism anymore. None. He said personal accountability was important. lol
 
apdst said:
I've already proven myself right when I say: there is no other proof available, other than the word of these women.

I don't know what to say about anyone that disputes that fact.
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I dont. But here is the thing...its all about perception. When you have that many people saying you did the same thing to them at different times and a couple of them being paid off, it LOOKS bad. Whether you did it or not. It is what he said and how he handled all this as well.

I did nothing
I dont recall doing anything.
I didnt pay anyone anything.
I dont recall paying anyone anything.
Etc etc


If he is being rattled by this, he is NOT ready to be president of the United states.
 
nota bene said:
Here's Ann Coulter's opinion. But first, a disclaimer: Let's save bandwidth and agree that she's a conservative harpie who makes money provoking liberals. The question here is whether she has a point.

David Axelrod's Pattern of Sexual Misbehavior - Ann Coulter - Townhall Conservative
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Well her point, if I'm reading it right, seems to be these are Chicago style politics ... problem with that is Karen Kraushaar, the first woman involved in this scandal was in D.C. at the time she filed her complaint. Another accuser, Sharon Bialek, who is from Chicago is also a Republican. Coulter also tries to paint a nefarious connection between her and Axelrod because they apparently once lived in the same apartment building ... but it's not clear when that was. It could have been years ago and there's no evidence of a connection. Furthermore, it doesn't even make sense for Axelrod to prompt Bialek to come forward to make up an accusation, since if he had the ability to do so, he would have saved that ace in the hole until next year if Cain won the GOP nomination. Seems to me that Coulter is merely up to her usual whiney hysterics and nothing more. She pisses off the left and makes the right hyperventilate and she makes good money doing that.
 
Camlon said:
This is not good for Romney. Romney wanted Cain to do well, and if he could decide he would had released this story just before the primaries. Since the story is released so early, Newt Gingrich may rise and beat Romney.

This is reflected on intrade, as Romney is dropping.
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I can't imagine a hypocrite who cheated on his wife and proved to be scummy enough to serve the wife he cheated on divorce papers as she lied in a hospital bed fighting cancer is going to garner enough support from the right to be elected shoeshine boy for Herman Cain.
 
American said:
Aveda King is on Hannity right now discussing Herman Cain. She says liberals are resorting to gossip.
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Who cares what she says? The story broke by politco.com, a non-partisan publication and went national on Fox News, a right leaning media. And the only person so far to detail a purported sexual advance is a registered Republican and possible teabagger. Lastly, the timing of the accusations only serves to benefit other Republicans running against Cain and likely hurts Obama. Her complaints about Liberals are unfounded. Of course, I have no doubt Sean Hannity didn't handle her that way. :lol:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I can't imagine a hypocrite who cheated on his wife and proved to be scummy enough to serve the wife he cheated on divorce papers as she lied in a hospital bed fighting cancer is going to garner enough support from the right to be elected shoeshine boy for Herman Cain.
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Do you imagine they will elect someone who Obama has used as inspiration for Obamacare? A man who you can not trust for a second? A man who is in bed with Wall Street? I think a lot of moderates, and liberals don't mind because if he is lying then that just means he is more moderate. For Republicans it has the opposite effect.

I mean back in the spring Gingrich was getting around 15% in polls. Back then, most people didn't really know that Romney was a flip flopper. They did know about Gingrich past. Most of Cain and Perry supporters have Gingrich, not Romney as their second choice. I don't think voters care that much about what he did in 1982, and what they and you don't know is that the story is excaggerated.
 
apdst said:
I've already proven myself right when I say: there is no other proof available, other than the word of these women.
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Too bad that's not what you said. Had that been what you said, you would have been right. What you actually said, was...


"There are no witnesses, or any other evidence than the word of these women that Herman Cain did anything wrong. That's just a fact." ~ apdst​


As even you can see (I hope), you didn't say what you're saying now, that there was to proof available, other than their word -- you said there was no evidence other than their word.

That you altered what you said initially is all the proof needed to show you make up your own facts.

Now that that is settled, how come you didn't offer up any proof to corroborate your latest made up "fact?"

You said ...


"There are no witnesses, or any other evidence than the word of these women that Herman Cain did anything wrong. That's just a fact." ~ apdst​


... yet here I am, still waiting for you to prove there are no witnesses ...


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Camlon said:
Do you imagine they will elect someone who Obama has used as inspiration for Obamacare? A man who you can not trust for a second? A man who is in bed with Wall Street? I think a lot of moderates, and liberals don't mind because if he is lying then that just means he is more moderate. For Republicans it has the opposite effect.
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I think Romney will win for a couple of reasons. One is that rightwing Conservatism will not defeat Obama, the GOP needs someone more moderate to attract more of the middle and even some from the left. The other comes from people like myself, Liberals who will vote for Romney in the primary so that if Obama loses, at least he loses to a moderate.

Camlon said:
I mean back in the spring Gingrich was getting around 15% in polls. Back then, most people didn't really know that Romney was a flip flopper. They did know about Gingrich past. Most of Cain and Perry supporters have Gingrich, not Romney as their second choice. I don't think voters care that much about what he did in 1982, and what they and you don't know is that the story is excaggerated.
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That doesn't even begin to address the point I made.

Gingrich cheated on his wife and served her divorce papers in a hospital where she was fighting cancer. I thought character meant something to Conservatives, yet here you are, insisting it doesn't. :shrug:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I think Romney will win for a couple of reasons. One is that rightwing Conservatism will not defeat Obama, the GOP needs someone more moderate to attract more of the middle and even some from the left. The other comes from people like myself, Liberals who will vote for Romney in the primary so that if Obama loses, at least he loses to a moderate.
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Do you really think the GOP is thinking like that? This is the people who supported Herman Cain, and many of them still do. This is the people who supported Trump for heavens sake. They are not going to think "I should pick Romney because he is more moderate and have a higher chance of winning" That ain't going to happen.

And because of people like you. Romney has been given the label "the one liberals want". That is not going to help him. I don't think liberals will be a big voting block in the nomination.

Gingrich cheated on his wife and served her divorce papers in a hospital where she was fighting cancer. I thought character meant something to Conservatives, yet here you are, insisting it doesn't. :shrug
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Character means something, or else Gingrich would be the clear winner already. But my intuition say that Republicans are forgiving him for his mistakes in the past.

And what character does Romney have? In Republican circles it is worse to be a traitor and a liar, than to have done mistakes in your past.
 
Remember what I said about Axelrod?

Ann Coulter - November 9, 2011 - DAVID AXELROD'S PATTERN OF SEXUAL MISBEHAVIOR

Within 24 hours of Bialek's press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she's a "gold-digger," that she was constantly in financial trouble -- having filed for personal bankruptcy twice -- and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod's apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama's "hired muscle."
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Then there is this from the Trib : Cain suggests Bialek finances are motive for allegation - Chicago Tribune

As newly reviewed records pointed to deeper financial problems for the Chicago-area woman accusing Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual harassment, he wasted no time Tuesday in suggesting she is motivated by monetary gain.

Sharon Bialek's fiance — who said he is her primary source of financial support — is unemployed and preparing to file for bankruptcy, according to Lake County court documents reviewed Tuesday by the Tribune. And in Cook County, lawsuits show she has been targeted by creditors who claimed she owed them thousands in unpaid rent, personal loans and credit card bills.
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Anyone care to go after her bank records? I bet you can find some payoff money in there somewhere.
 
I will give you my 2 cents worth. Herman Cain is doomed proven or otherwise. Rick Perry is no better than Sarah Palin. So Mitt Romney wins by a T.K.O
 
Gingrich cheated on his wife and served her divorce papers in a hospital where she was fighting cancer.
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See its echo chamber bull**** like this that makes your credibility dubious at best. The above sentence is not accurate, chronologically or factually.
FYI, when you decide to vote in the GOP primary as a registered republican, we can begin to care about what you think. Until then, not so much.
 
OpportunityCost said:
See its echo chamber bull**** like this that makes your credibility dubious at best. The above sentence is not accurate, chronologically or factually.
FYI, when you decide to vote in the GOP primary as a registered republican, we can begin to care about what you think. Until then, not so much.
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we have another he said she said situation
the first spouse asserts newt tendered divorce papers to her while in her hospital bed:
... According to Battley, in September 1980, Gingrich and their children visited her while she was in the hospital, recovering from surgery, and Gingrich wanted to discuss the terms of their divorce. Gingrich has disputed that account. ...
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Newt Gingrich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

let me guess. while we know newt cheated on his first (and second) spouse, you believe that he is not also lying about taking the divorce papers to his wife's hospital bed
 
OpportunityCost said:
See its echo chamber bull**** like this that makes your credibility dubious at best. The above sentence is not accurate, chronologically or factually.
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Gee, the right "let's see Obama's birth certificate" wing sure is touchy on details, huh? My credibilty is has nothing to do with repeating what's been circulating for years. I did Google it though in light of your post and found his daughter clarifying that her parents were talking about getting a divorce before she entered the hospital to have a tumor removed. Though she doesn't say when Newt gave her the papers, which from earlier accounts was while she was in the hospital.

But giving ol' Newt the benefit of the doubt, that doesn't make him any less of a letch for cheating on his wife or any less of a hypocrite for berating Clinton for being a letch when in secret, he's also cheating on his wife.

OpportunityCost said:
FYI, when you decide to vote in the GOP primary as a registered republican, we can begin to care about what you think. Until then, not so much.
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Well then this must be my lucky day because I will be voting in the GOP primary as a registered Republican. So now you may pretend to care what I think.
 
Danarhea: "Mr Cain, please accept my apology."
 
American said:
Aveda King is on Hannity right now discussing Herman Cain. She says liberals are resorting to gossip.
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