• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Is Right Already Making Excuses That Obama Will Win Re-Election?

Seems that I am the issue here instead of the thread topic or the Obama results. Liberals never want to address the Obama record or the reality that it was the Democrat controlled Congress that helped generate that record. That is what you do on every thread, personally attack me while ignoring the Obama record. I won't be on the ballot in 2012 but the Obama record will. Try to stay focused
When Obama wins re-election are you going to blame the media as many of your fellow conservatives will surly do? That's the topic of this thread, so try to stay focused on that.
 
When Obama wins re-election are you going to blame the media as many of your fellow conservatives will surly do? That's the topic of this thread, so try to stay focused on that.

You have yet to give a reason why anyone would ever vote for Obama again based upon the promises made and the results generated. Seems that rhetoric trumps actual facts and the media is certainly covering up those results.
 
You have yet to give a reason why anyone would ever vote for Obama again based upon the promises made and the results generated. Seems that rhetoric trumps actual facts and the media is certainly covering up those results.
You sure have a problem staying on topic, this thread is about conservatives like you blaming the media when he's re-elected. Will you blame the media, Conservative?
 
The GOP answer to a Harvard Law editor of the law review...

HermanCain11.jpg




Herman Cain: Dope and Change (my mind)

And this guy is leading on the right.

WOW.
 
You sure have a problem staying on topic, this thread is about conservatives like you blaming the media when he's re-elected. Will you blame the media, Conservative?

Partially yes, along with anyone that ignore actual results since in my world results matter. How about giving me the sources that you believe are credible in reporting Obama results since apparently none that I have offered are acceptable including BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Website
 
Don't count the chickens before they hatch. Right now, the GOP is in a wrestling match with itself to determine the candidate. As soon as a leader emerges, the GOP will rally behind him (or her, but I don't think Bachmann really has a chance), and coalesce around their platform. Then, it will be the candidate's job to sell the platform to the people.

If you've already forgotten, the exact same thing happened in 2008 between Obama and Clinton. Both had differing philosophies about the direction of the country, but one thing they agreed on very strongly: down with the Republican. In 2012, the Republicans may be divided on policy, but they are unified behind making a "One Term Obama". There is still more than a year before the elections, and the voting public has a very short memory.

You honestly think Tea party memeber's will rally behind Romney? YOu know he is the one who is going to win that side, and you honestly think they will back him? Really?

Oh and you think Bachmann has any chance at this point? YOu sir, are delusional but continue please. Question, did you think McCain was going to win in 2008? lolololol
 
Partially yes, along with anyone that ignore actual results since in my world results matter. How about giving me the sources that you believe are credible in reporting Obama results since apparently none that I have offered are acceptable including BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Website
Thanks for your partial answer, we will see if you blame them, won't we?
 
Thanks for your partial answer, we will see if you blame them, won't we?

I only blame them for not reporting results and for skewing the news. People are accountable for their own votes and thus ignoring results. Anyone that votes for Obama ignores the results and results matter to most people, why not you?
 
Moderator's Warning:
Time to get on topic.
 
What slays me is how conservatives gleefully brag about Fox thrashing MSNBC and CNN in the ratings, and how Rush, Hannity, et al destroy progressive talk radio in the ratings ... and then turn right around and whine about LIBERAL media bias. Helllooo? All those folks on Fox and talk radio complaining about liberal media bias ... ARE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA!

How about taking some personal responsibility, conservatives? Your problems are self inflicted -- not the result of a media conspiracy. At the end of the day you are pushing policies that a majority of Americans do not like. The flat tax will raise taxes on 95% of Americans (give or take). Large majorities do not want major changes to SS and Medicare. Most Americans don't want to kill funding for Planned Parenthood. Most Americans don't want to dismantle the EPA. Most Americans are willing to pay a little more in energy prices to address global warming. Most Americans support the Dream Act. Most Americans do not want to cut taxes on large corporations. Etc., etc.
 
What slays me is how conservatives gleefully brag about Fox thrashing MSNBC and CNN in the ratings, and how Rush, Hannity, et al destroy progressive talk radio in the ratings ... and then turn right around and whine about LIBERAL media bias. Helllooo? All those folks on Fox and talk radio complaining about liberal media bias ... ARE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA!

How about taking some personal responsibility, conservatives? Your problems are self inflicted -- not the result of a media conspiracy. At the end of the day you are pushing policies that a majority of Americans do not like. The flat tax will raise taxes on 95% of Americans (give or take). Large majorities do not want major changes to SS and Medicare. Most Americans don't want to kill funding for Planned Parenthood. Most Americans don't want to dismantle the EPA. Most Americans are willing to pay a little more in energy prices to address global warming. Most Americans support the Dream Act. Most Americans do not want to cut taxes on large corporations. Etc., etc.

I don't usually bother to even reply to crap like this, but I decided to give this a shot.

Liberal media bias is well known. Even liberals (well smart liberals anyway) admit it. It's been that way for decades, now finally another voice has come onto the stage and their ratings blow away the main stream media's liberal ratings. If there was no liberal media bias, why would FNC blow away the other networks?

Taking personal responsibility? You mean like the OWS protesters are? Those are examples of your liberal bretheren, why not go talk to them?

A flat tax might raise taxes on 95% of people, but that would be because almost 50% don't pay any taxes at all. Not hard to raise taxes when you raise them from 0.

Most americans this, most Americans that. Most Americans didn't want Obamacare, and the liberal ****heads in congress shoved that down our throats. Where was your ranting against what "Most americans" want back then, huh?

And while some asshole on here edited my post, no, MOST AMERICANS DID NOT WANT OBAMACARE.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/22/new-cnn-poll-59-oppose-obamacare/

Partisan nutjobs should be banned from this forum.
 
Last edited:
You honestly think Tea party memeber's will rally behind Romney? YOu know he is the one who is going to win that side, and you honestly think they will back him? Really?

First off, not all Tea Partiers are fanatically conservative, nor are all of them Republicans. Yes, a majority are, but your blanket stereotyping only disservices the truth. Furthermore, if it's a choice between Obama and Romney, do you really think that the so-called "fanatic Republicans" that you worry about will really risk not voting for Romney? Why do you think most self-labeled socialists and communists vote D? It's because the other party is more dangerous.

Oh and you think Bachmann has any chance at this point? YOu sir, are delusional but continue please. Question, did you think McCain was going to win in 2008? lolololol

What? Where did I say I think Bachmann has a chance? If you think my hedge is a show of support, then you obviously have never done any political predictions. The idea that you can completely discount a candidate in any race is foolish. Circumstances exist in which even John Huntsman could win the Republican primary, but those circumstances are very unlikely to occur. But does he still have a chance? Most definitely.

Did I think McCain was going to win in 2008? Well, that depends on when you asked me. In early September, McCain had a resurgence in the polling, and it seemed likely that he would win. His polling numbers showed a surprising and consistent lead over Obama. Palin was drawing support from women and the conservative base of the party, and McCain had launched some successful advertising campaigns that helped boost his own. However, by the end of September, it was clear to me that Obama would win. His performance in the debates was very well received, and Palin had become the mockery of the McCain ticket.
 
Back
Top Bottom