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Reg said:
I don't know what Obama is committed to other than four more years of the same failed policies of the last three years.

Do you?
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Exactly, so if His policies fail, his name can be attached to it.

But have you listened to romney in these debates? Have you paid attention since 2008...hell...since he was governor? The man has NO committment to anything! He stands for absolutely nothing, and has the tongue of a snake to get what he wants. I have absolutely zero respect for him, and he has zero credibility to do anything other than feed his own ego. At least Obama comes off as someone who legitimately cares for the little guy, even if he is completely WRONG. I can vote for that, and live with myself, over someone who I neither agree with and has the integrity of a possum.

I'll probably be voting for gingrich. Even if he has personal issues, he's not afraid to at least PRETEND to stand for something...Romney doesn't even bother to do that much. What does he take the american people for?
 
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DarkWizard12 said:
Exactly, so if He fails...who gets to blame?

But have you listened to romney in these debates? Have you paid attention since 2008...hell...since he was governor? The man has NO committment to anything! He stands for absolutely nothing, and has the tongue of a snake to get what he wants. I have absolutely zero respect for him, and he has zero credibility to do anything other than feed his own ego. At least Obama comes off as someone who legitimately cares for the little guy, even if he is completely WRONG. I can vote for that, and live with myself, over someone who I neither agree with and has the integrity of a possum.
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He's not my first choice, but it's too important to relegate Obama to the ash heap of history now.
 
Reg said:
He's not my first choice, but it's too important to relegate Obama to the ash heap of history now.
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But should we uphold Romney up?
 
Absolutely. Americans would be better off with a can of orange juice in the White House.
 
Reg said:
There is no groundswell for Huntsman. He's the guy who stands for nothing.
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We call this "moving the goalpost".
 
No, it's incredulity that anyone can consider him viable.
 
The goalpost is the same. The lust for Huntsman on the left is a pathetic joke.
 
Reg said:
The goalpost is the same. The lust for Huntsman on the left is a pathetic joke.
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And again it moves. Pick a position and defend it.
 
All of the above. Huntsman is a joke.
 
The goalposts, like Huntsman's piss poor polling among Republicans, hasn't moved.

Who cares if Democrats think Republicans should nominate Huntsman?

Screw that.
 
Reg said:
The goalposts, like Huntsman's piss poor polling among Republicans, hasn't moved.

Who cares if Democrats think Republicans should nominate Huntsman?

Screw that.
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I don't care who republicans should nominate. It's not my decision to make. I just find your string of comments amusing. I also think your strawman about democrats is even more amusing.
 
Redress said:
Romney is no shoe in. He is certainly the favorite, but I remind you that last cycle at this time, Clinton was the favorite to win the democratic nomination. Paul, Bachmann Huntsman and Santorum are realistically the only ones really out of it at this point.
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I just keep thinking of the democratic primary Kerry won... Everybody thought it was going to be Dean. How did that happen? I didn't pay attention to the polls, so I am not sure how it really worked out.
 
Kali said:
What about Cain?
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Cain is a joke. He's going down after his recent stumbles.

However, I will mention this. It is incredibly pathetic that the GOP is basically trying to argue that foreign policy is irrelevant to this election largely because Obama's doing quite well in the GOP playbook. If the GOP had been in power and done what he did, get out of Iraq, Kill Bin Laden and a whole bunch of top tier leaders, transition towards democracy in the Middle East and save a few million people from a butchering dictator, they'd be trying to legislate holidays, statues and giving out medals.

The current system of two parties has no shame. None.
 
Redress said:
Romney is no shoe in. He is certainly the favorite, but I remind you that last cycle at this time, Clinton was the favorite to win the democratic nomination. Paul, Bachmann Huntsman and Santorum are realistically the only ones really out of it at this point.
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While that is true, Cain cannot get the nomination much less win without insider support and he's basically got none of it from the Republican Elite. Gringrich has way too much baggage and Huntsman is dead in the water. Perry's the only real wildcard but he's so unstable that the GOP elite haven't got behind him. His whole "flat tax" seems like a desperate gamble after Cain's plan is causing his plane to plummet.

My money is that Romney is going to get the nomination. He's the only adult left who the Elite support who has money.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
FALSE! I am the primary voter, and my vote counts, as well as everyone else.
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True.

Who are you to dictate what kind of candidate i am going to get?
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I'm not dictating to you. I'm just giving you a highly likely outcome. Could it be I'm wrong? Absolutely. But I think you aren't accounting for the GOP Elite. And Romney right now is the only one that they support in mass.

Are you just some harvard intellectual? or the 1% who is trying to rig the game? I've already stated my opinion, I will stay with Obama if Romney gets it, I will never let him get into the white house.
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Ouch. I was wondering who you hated more.

I'll probably vote for gingrich, he's my first choice right now.
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You think he has a real chance?
 
Reg said:
There is no groundswell for Huntsman. He's the guy who stands for nothing.
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Can you list his flip flops?

Because objectively, Huntsman hasn't moved much at all. Unlike Romney.

Huntsman is still for global trade. He still believes in Global Warming. He's still for civil unions. He's still a moderate on abortion. He accepts evolution.
 
obvious Child said:
I'm not dictating to you. I'm just giving you a highly likely outcome. Could it be I'm wrong? Absolutely. But I think you aren't accounting for the GOP Elite. And Romney right now is the only one that they support in mass.
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**** the elite, they can support whoever they want, I'll support the one I want.
You think he has a real chance?
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How would anyone know that exactly? He would absolutely destroy Obama in any debate, and unlike any of the other candidates, the only ones going 'anyone but gingrich' is the liberals themselves. Could Obama swarm him in the campaigns? Possibly, but i think Obama would do the same with any candidate, and who's to say Romney has a good chance? simply because polls...'snapshots' of the political landscape...show him ahead? Perry was ahead...look how far he dropped. After watching Romney, I would say Gingrich has a better chance against Obama than Romney.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
**** the elite, they can support whoever they want, I'll support the one I want.
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Which you should.

How would anyone know that exactly? He would absolutely destroy Obama in any debate, and unlike any of the other candidates, the only ones going 'anyone but gingrich' is the liberals themselves.
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Really? Why is he constantly failing to get anywhere in the primaries? Gringrich has baggage that only a large number of freight trains could carry. There's no doubt he's smarter than most of the buffoons on the GOP stage, but that alone won't get him attention much less support. Gringrich can't get the social conservative support after the past two decades. Without that and the backing of the GOP Elite, you cannot win the primary. Has never happened in modern history.

Could Obama swarm him in the campaigns? Possibly, but i think Obama would do the same with any candidate, and who's to say Romney has a good chance? simply because polls...'snapshots' of the political landscape...show him ahead? Perry was ahead...look how far he dropped. After watching Romney, I would say Gingrich has a better chance against Obama than Romney.
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Romney doesn't have a good chance per se, but he's constantly polling with the best chances against Obama. Considering the economy though, he should be doing better which ties back to your whole sentiment of "Romney Sucks." I do agree that Romney is poor candidate, but he's the best out of those who have a real chance.
 
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