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Absolute Proof of why Islam must NEVER be allowed to govern

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This video proves why Islam can never be allowed to govern a populace.

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This message also proves quite nicely why Iran's government needs to be disposed of.
 
What, that they were arresting someone? Watch any episode of COPS and you'll see the same thing. Exactly what is this "absolute proof" you speak of?
 
What, that they were arresting someone? Watch any episode of COPS and you'll see the same thing. Exactly what is this "absolute proof" you speak of?

I believe and I could be wrong this was the arrest of a teen girl for being raped by a taxis cab driver only to find herself on a long trip with a short rope around her neck.
 
This message also proves quite nicely why Iran's government needs to be disposed of.

How quickly we forget that the reason we have the current government of Iran is that the United States acted to overthrow the democratically elected government before it.
 
How quickly we forget that the reason we have the current government of Iran is that the United States acted to overthrow the democratically elected government before it.

You mean the British plan?


Besides the reason you have the current government is because Reagan didn't have a pair to wipe the sorry mofo's off the face of the Earth.
 
You mean the British plan?

Um, no.

Besides the reason you have the current government is because Reagan didn't have a pair to wipe the sorry mofo's off the face of the Earth.

I think it's more like Reagan was smart enough to see that, in an environment where getting funds for an appropriately strong military was difficult (even in the face of the ongoing cold war), starting a shooting war with USSR-backed Iran was not a wise choice.
 
I believe and I could be wrong this was the arrest of a teen girl for being raped by a taxis cab driver only to find herself on a long trip with a short rope around her neck.
if true, that bit of context would have been helpful in the OP
 
Um yes...Maybe you should try reading your links....Just a thought.

Overthrowing Mosaddegh's government was a British idea for which they asked President Truman's aid; he refused. [17] Later, in 1953, when Eisenhower became president, the British asked him and he agreed to their jointly deposing the elected Iranian civil government. [18]

Please continue with the "Its the evil Americans fault"

I think it's more like Reagan was smart enough to see that, in an environment where getting funds for an appropriately strong military was difficult (even in the face of the ongoing cold war), starting a shooting war with USSR-backed Iran was not a wise choice.

And 30 years later Iran committed an act of war which Reagan did nothing The USSR would have done nothing in the face of the 1983 bombings fearing a nuclear war as the most likely outcome.
 
I believe and I could be wrong this was the arrest of a teen girl for being raped by a taxis cab driver only to find herself on a long trip with a short rope around her neck.

That may be true, but it's not something specifically shown in the video, which was the original claim. There is nothing specific in that particular video which is proof of any kind why Islam must never be allowed to govern anyone.
 
Um yes...Maybe you should try reading your links....Just a thought.

I did. It quite clearly outlined our direct involvement in the overthrow of a democratically elected government. It also quite clearly outlined how our support and the Shah's cowardice were in turn used as key rallying points for the Iranian Revolution.

Please continue with the "Its the evil Americans fault"

Please quote where exactly I said it was strictly an American effort or that America is evil. Kthxbai.

And 30 years later Iran committed an act of war which Reagan did nothing The USSR would have done nothing in the face of the 1983 bombings fearing a nuclear war as the most likely outcome.

I think perhaps your analysis of the situation is overly simplistic.
 
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What, that they were arresting someone? Watch any episode of COPS and you'll see the same thing. Exactly what is this "absolute proof" you speak of?

They were arresting a teenage girl because she wasn't wearing her burka.
 
That may be true, but it's not something specifically shown in the video, which was the original claim. There is nothing specific in that particular video which is proof of any kind why Islam must never be allowed to govern anyone.


That cop car belongs to Iran's morality police. There mere presence of any such force is proof of why Islam cannot be given any official government power.
 
I did. It quite clearly outlined our direct involvement in the overthrow of a democratically elected government. It also quite clearly outlined how our support and the Shah's cowardice were in turn used as key rallying points for the Iranian Revolution.

I didn't deny the US never played a role did I dan?
You only wished to provide one reason the Iran government is what it is today. Now you say it played a key role? Really how much of one?
While it might have played a tiny role wouldn't you say it was more of a Islamic Revolution..hmmm?


Please quote where exactly I said it was strictly an American effort or that America is evil. Kthxbai.
Let us re read your statement,

How quickly we forget that the reason we have the current government of Iran is that the United States acted to overthrow the democratically elected government before it.

Did you say anything about it was conceived by the Brits? Nope
Did you state the Brits had part? Nope you just blamed the US and only the US.

I think perhaps your analysis of the situation is overly simplistic.
Gee I wonder what definition of analysis is?............:roll:
 
They were arresting a teenage girl because she wasn't wearing her burka.

Which, while I personally don't agree with it, if that's the law of the land where she lives, she has broken the law and is subject to the penalties thereof. If someone was out in public naked in virtually any city in America, the same thing would happen, the police would show up, throw them in the back of a squad car and take them away.

If you break the law, whether you disagree with it or not, you're still liable to the penalty, like it or not.
 
That cop car belongs to Iran's morality police. There mere presence of any such force is proof of why Islam cannot be given any official government power.

I just love to watch people imposing their own moralities on other cultures, like they have any objective say. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but they're no more "true" than their opinions about the evils of the west.
 
I just love to watch people imposing their own moralities on other cultures, like they have any objective say. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but they're no more "true" than their opinions about the evils of the west.

Despite your support from Iriemon (who loves islam and all its many evils) you are still WRONG.

In the west we do not have morality police.
In the west we do not hang teenage girls from industrial cranes simply because they MIGHT have done something opposite the law of Islamotardia.

In the west we do not hang people for disagreeing with the government.

In Iran, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE A REGULAR OCCURANCE. Therefore, your point is disproven and you are defeated.
 
I just love to watch people imposing their own moralities on other cultures, like they have any objective say. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but they're no more "true" than their opinions about the evils of the west.

This video will assist you and Iriemon in understanding why Islam should NEVER be allowed to govern.

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This video will assist you and Iriemon in understanding why Islam should NEVER be allowed to govern.

watch

I didn't have to go beyond the first screen to see this is typical bigoted propoganda from one of the boards resident bigots, who has posted before about his hate against Muslims and how all Muslims should be deported from the US.

The very first line of the video, comparing Iran to Nazi Germany, claims Iran "seeks to exterminate the Jews."

Both an ignorant and somewhat ironic thing to contend about a nation that hosts a small Jewish population (but the largest in the ME outside of Israel) that has been there for centuries, a nation whose government guarantees the Jew's religious freedom including permitting them to whorship in synagouges and have Jewish schools and resturants and hospitals, and guarantees the Jewish population a seat in parliament.

The bigot's main tools are ignorance, distortion, and using select acts of some to generate hatred against the whole of the group.

Vader uses these tools regularly.
 
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Despite your support from Iriemon (who loves islam and all its many evils) you are still WRONG.

Restorting to flat out lies to try to make a point. Par for the course for Vader.

In the west we do not have morality police.

Sure. How many states have laws against abortion?

In the west we do not hang teenage girls from industrial cranes simply because they MIGHT have done something opposite the law of Islamotardia.

In the west we do not hang people for disagreeing with the government.
In Iran, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE A REGULAR OCCURANCE. Therefore, your point is disproven and you are defeated.

Which has what to do with wearing a burkah, assuming you didn't completely make up the stuff about the video.
 
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Despite your support from Iriemon (who loves islam and all its many evils) you are still WRONG.

And when do you plan on demonstrating that, as opposed to simply stating it and expecting people to take you seriously? Come on, PROVE that I'm wrong, so far all you've done is state your opinions and acted like they're factually true.

In the west we do not have morality police.

Since all crimes have at least some moral component, having any police to enforce the laws makes them, by definition, morality police. You just don't happen to mind the laws that they're enforcing.

In the west we do not hang teenage girls from industrial cranes simply because they MIGHT have done something opposite the law of Islamotardia.

No, but we used to do disgusting, inhuman things to an entire race of people who we regarded as less than human.

In the west we do not hang people for disagreeing with the government.

Not today, although it wasn't that long ago that the Catholic Church got away with murdering people who disagreed with church doctrine.

In Iran, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE A REGULAR OCCURANCE. Therefore, your point is disproven and you are defeated.

No, it just proves you're an anti-Islamic hypocrite that can't tell the difference between your own opinions and objective facts. No surprise there.
 
I didn't have to go beyond the first screen to see this is typical bigoted propoganda from one of the boards resident bigots, who has posted before about his hate against Muslims and how all Muslims should be deported from the US.

The very first line of the video, comparing Iran to Nazi Germany, claims Iran "seeks to exterminate the Jews."

Both an ignorant and somewhat ironic thing to contend about a nation that hosts a small Jewish population (but the largest in the ME outside of Israel) that has been there for centuries, a nation whose government guarantees the Jew's religious freedom including permitting them to whorship in synagouges and have Jewish schools and resturants and hospitals, and guarantees the Jewish population a seat in parliament.

The bigot's main tools are ignorance, distortion, and using select acts of some to generate hatred against the whole of the group.

Vader uses these tools regularly.

And yet we have this. So which is it iriemon?
Your candy-coated version or something a bit more down to Earth?

Jews of Iran
1948 Jewish population: 100,000
2004: 25,000

Under the Phalevi Dynasty, established in 1925, the country was secularized and oriented toward the West. This greatly benefited the Jews, who were emancipated and played an important role in the economy and in cultural life. On the eve of the Islamic Revolution in 1979, 80,000 Jews lived in Iran. In the wake of the upheaval, tens of thousands of Jews, especially the wealthy, left the country, leaving behind vast amounts of property.

The Council of the Jewish Community, which was established after World War II, is the representative body of the community. The Jews also have a representative in parliament who is obligated by law to support Iranian foreign policy and its Anti-Zionist position.

Despite the official distinction between "Jews," "Zionists," and "Israel," the most common accusation the Jews encounter is that of maintaining contacts with Zionists. The Jewish community does enjoy a measure of religious freedom but is faced with constant suspicion of cooperating with the Zionist state and with "imperialistic America" — both such activities are punishable by death. Jews who apply for a passport to travel abroad must do so in a special bureau and are immediately put under surveillance. The government does not generally allow all members of a family to travel abroad at the same time to prevent Jewish emigration. Again, the Jews live under the status of dhimmi, with the restrictions im posed on religious minorities. Jewish leaders fear government reprisals if they draw attention to official mistreatment of their community.

Iran's official government-controlled media often issues anti-Semitic propaganda. A prime example is the government's publishing of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a notorious Czarist forgery, in 1994 and 1999.2 Jews also suffer varying degrees of officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and public accommodations.3

The Islamization of the country has brought about strict control over Jewish educational institutions. Before the revolution, there were some 20 Jewish schools functioning throughout the country. In recent years, most of these have been closed down. In the remaining schools, Jewish principals have been replaced by Muslims. In Teheran there are still three schools in which Jewish pupils constitute a majority. The curriculum is Islamic, and Persian is forbidden as the language of instruction for Jewish studies. Special Hebrew lessons are conducted on Fridays by the Orthodox Otzar ha-Torah organization, which is responsible for Jewish religious education. Saturday is no longer officially recognized as the Jewish sabbath, and Jewish pupils are compelled to attend school on that day. There are three synagogues in Teheran, but since 1994, there has been no rabbi in Iran, and the bet din does not function. 4

Following the overthrow of the shah and the declaration of an Islamic state in 1979, Iran severed relations with Israel. The country has subsequently supported many of the Islamic terrorist organizations that target Jews and Israelis, particularly the Lebanon-based, Hezbollah. Nevertheless, Iran's Jewish community is the largest in the Middle East outside Israel.

On the eve of Passover in 1999, 13 Jews from Shiraz and Isfahan in southern Iran were arrested and accused of spying for Israel and the United States. Those arrested include a rabbi, a ritual slaughterer and teachers. In September 2000, an Iranian appeals court upheld a decision to imprison ten of the thirteen Jews accused of spying for Israel. In the appeals court, ten of the accused were found guilty of cooperating with Israel and were given prison terms ranging from two to nine years. Three of the accused were found innocent in the first trial.5 In March 2001, one of the imprisoned Jews was released, a second was freed in January 2002, the remaining eight were set free in late October 2002. The last five apparently were released on furlough for an indefinite period, leaving them vulnerable to future arrest. Three others were reportedly pardoned by Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.6

At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution 19 years ago, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel. For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to emigrate.7

Today, Iran's Jewish population is the second largest in the Middle East, after Israel. Reports vary as to the condition and treatment of the small, tight-knit community, and the population of Iranian Jews can only be estimated due to the community’s isolation from world Jewry.
 
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