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Korimyr the Rat
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Re: The right to life.

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Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
One's personal beliefs do not alter the form or state of one's being, so rather or not one subscribes to the Natural Law premis is irrelivent. You are what you are and have every right as the next person.
I'd argue that if one's personal beliefs do not alter the form or state of one's being-- a point I would dispute, by the way-- then subscribing to the premise of Natural Law does not change that one man is more or less capable than the next, and thus either more or less capable of demanding, enforcing, or exercising any rights he wishes.

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OK, but no one abides by natural laws, we abide by written laws that reflect the needs of society.
Really? I would say that we abide only by those laws that are enforced, whether they are written down or not. And I'd certainly argue against the idea that the laws, either as written or as enforced, reflect the needs of society in any but the most general sense.

The laws as written reflect the needs of the men who wrote them, and the laws as enforced reflect the needs of the men who enforce them. Any other effect that they may have upon society at large is either an attempt to convince others to endorse the law, or purely coincidental.
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