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Originally Posted by Goldenboy219  The context of your sources is off base. Remember, the OP was in regards to children, and a non meat source of protein. So...
Surly you are aware that the composition of breast milk is entirely dynamic. Nice red herring attempt though.
Thats not fair 
Are you saying that 8% is only a fraction?  If so, then why do you contradict yourself by posting WHO guidelines?
And just to clear things up, the "pups" were not protein deprived, nor were they being fed anything other than the mother's milk. It was the lactating mothers that were fed either 20% protein or 8% protein. Newborns were nursed from either one of the other.
Where in the study were they protein deprived? Maybe you should try reading 
None the less, i have a couple questions that i would like you to answer.
What role do fats, both saturated and non saturated, as well as cholesterol play in child brain development? Second, is it medically advised (not some quack vegan doctor either) to totally remove cholesterol and saturated fat from a child's diet?
Do remember the context of my questions (child) as it is on par with the OP. |
Dude, remember? From your own study:
The aim of this study was to investigate in rats the effect of early protein restriction, inducing low birth weight, on brain and endocrine pancreas vascularization at birth and to study if such alterations lasted until adulthood.
The
pups were protein deprived by keeping the dam protein deprived.
(And, yes, for rats, 8% is a fraction. Rat's milk has a much higher protein content than human's. In your own study, the dams
not protein deprived were given 20% protein, which is about the norm for them. The W.H.O. numbers I referred to concern people, not rats).
You won't like the following site either, because it is in agreement with what I've already said.
The Vegetarian Infant
The main sources of protein and nutrients for infants are breast milk and formula, especially in the first 6 months of life. Fruits and veggies should be introduced around 6 months. For parents who want to raise their infants as "semi-vegetarians" and serve poultry, meats don't come into the picture until around 9 months.
The American Dietetic Association recommends that once an infant is introduced to solids, protein-rich vegetarian foods can include pureed tofu, cottage cheese, and pureed and strained legumes (legumes include beans, peas, chickpeas, and lentils). Breastfed infant vegans should receive a source of vitamin B12, if the mother's diet isn't supplemented, and a source of vitamin D if sun exposure (which provides vitamin D) isn't adequate.
The Vegetarian Toddler
Toddlers are already a bit of a challenge when it comes to eating. As they come off of breast milk or formula around 1 year (although vegans often breastfeed longer), children are at risk for nutritional deficiencies. After the age of 1, strict vegan diets may not offer growing toddlers enough essential vitamins and minerals, such as vitamin D, vitamin B12, iron, calcium, and zinc. So it's important to serve fortified cereals and nutrient-dense foods, as well as watch your child's fiber intake. Vitamin supplementation is recommended for young children whose diets may not provide adequate nutrients.
Toddlers are typically picky about which foods they'll eat and, as a result, some may not get enough calories from a vegetarian diet to thrive. For vegan toddlers, the amount of vegetables needed for proper nutrition and calories may be too bulky for their tiny stomachs. During the picky toddler stage, it's important for vegetarian parents to make sure their young child eats enough calories. You can get enough fat and calories in a vegan child's diet, but you have to plan carefully when excluding food groups.
Vegetarianism
Okay, if the composition of breast milk is dynamic, what is the range of protein content? Simple question. You didn't agree with my numbers, so provide your own.
Again, I already provided 3 unbiased sites showing the human body produces all the cholesterol it needs. Why don't you provide some that claim we need to eat cholesterol every day?
Finally, we do need fat in our diet, but not cholesterol. Kids do need fat in their diet, but not cholesterol.
Here's the big picture. As an American, you have close to a 40% chance of dying of heart disease, and a
much higher chance of becoming unhealthy from heart disease. You have virtually no chance of dying or being unhealthy from a lack of protein in this country. That is my point, and the basis for my agenda...
Below, you will find some recent statistics for heart attacks in the United States. 452,327: the number of deaths due to heart attacks in the United States in the year 2004.
20: the percentage of all deaths due to heart attacks in the United States in the year 2004.
1.2 million: the average number of heart attacks that occur each year.
38: the percentage of all those who die from a coronary heart attack.
15.8 million: the number of heart attack patients who survive.
8.9 million: the estimated amount of angina patients in the United States.
4000,00: the number of new angina cases each year in the United States.
233,000: the number of women who died from cardiovascular disease each year.
14 million: the number of Americans afflicted with some form of heart disease or angina.
50: the percentage of deaths that occur one hour after a heart attack when not treated.
60 billion: the amount of dollars spent on heart attack treatment and prevention each year.
20: every 20 seconds, a new heart attack occurs somewhere in America.
60: every minute, another heart attack death occurs.
Heart Attack Statistics