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Old 07-17-08, 03:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Why is McCain disliked by a majority of the republicans?

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Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
ITs arguing something different though. He was insinuating that since he was the Republican nominee, that must automatically mean a majority of republics LIKE him, not dislike him.

I said that's not necessarily true.

Lets look at the 5 big vote getters for the Republicans:

McCain, Thompson, Huckabee, Romney, Paul

My belief is, in general, you had Thompson, Huck, Romney, and Paul all splitting the core base of the Republican party and the staunch conservatives while McCain had himself a nice little niche of the liberal/moderate republicans (with Huckabee making inroads for it as time went on).

Or, put another way.

Lets say that 40% of the party is moderate/liberal and 60% is conservative.

McCain getting 35% of the moderate total could still beat out the other four guys if they all split that 60% in such a way that no single person gets more than McCain from his little niche.

All I'm saying is that McCain getting the nominee in no way proves or shows that "the majority of republicans like McCain".
No I understand what you're getting at, it's like why Ron Paul led in military donations. If you were a pro war Republican you might give your money to McCain, Romney, Hunter, Huckabee, Giuliani, etc. but if you're an antiwar Republican you gave your money to Ron Paul.

What I'm saying is it's not that simple. Where's the line between moderate and conservative? As soon as you draw that line, you have to deal with the fact that the people on either side of the line have a lot more in common with each other than the people further away from the line in their own segmentation. Sure in a general sense you had McCain and Giuliani on the left and Romney and Huckabee on the right, but even then you had relatively few places where they were genuinely splitting each others support up too significantly, Huckabee really wasn't **** in New Hampshire, nor was Romney in South Carolina, the only place they were both kind of competitive was Florida, and there McCain had to deal with Giuliani who was still of some note there. It doesn't mean the majority like him, but it means more people liked him more than anyone else.
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