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Originally Posted by Sir Loin  What does any list of allegations from any source have to do with “proof” that Fox News is not reporting actual news, because they are biased? |
How are memos from John Moody asking FOX News members to specifically focus and look for anti-democrat stories 'allegations of bias'? That is proof of bias. That you keep ignoring it is simply disingenuous but if you want to call them 'allegations' :
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| Wiki articles that regurgitate the contents of “Out Foxed” are the depth of your case? You’ve utterly failed to demonstrate that Fox News created false news by showing the fact that there were indeed terrorist pleased when the DNC had gains in 2006. Ya gotta love that argument. Fox aired real news, a memo allegedly said be on the lookout for just this kind of real news. How truly painful for you that someone at Fox actually knew this was the case, and had the audacity to give a heads to staff so they could report on it. Quite the case you have there. |
And so without any argument you resort to an argumentum ad hominem on the source and then followed that with a non sequitur. When you're actively looking for anti-democrat statements and using words like 'Iraqi insurgents must be thrilled that Democrats have won' to elaborate on what 'stories' you want on the news then that is a clear sign of bias.
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| I don’t give a flying crap about the so called “political biases” of any of the major cable news networks. |
Really? Your words betray you. I'll explain.
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| Meanwhile, there are some serious and well documented cases where truly egregious, shall we say crimes against journalism have been carried out. Oh say CNN the so called most “trusted news” source? Also the one that allowed their “bias” for money to prevent them from actually reporting the truth, for just a wee bit over a decade? Do tell me, where are the weekly threads about CNN and the evil “bias” for money that lead them to act just as you and others keep yammering that Fox News is? Only all ya got are Media Matters and wiki articles. Ya gonna rasie me some Huffington whines too? I’ll add them to those Howard Dean “proofs” your wiki article contains.
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Translation : To run away from my ridiculous arguments I point fingers at the rest of the media! Then I prove I don't care about political bias by pointing fingers at the rest of the media who I think is biased!
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If you are going to put words in my mouth, it would help if it was something I’ve actually said.
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You confirmed the words I 'put in your mouth'. You don't care about the political biases of other news companies and you supported this by ranting about other news companies.
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| So we can add allegations based upon biased slants of supposedly “leaked memos” to the great “D” for an “R” case of 06 and wiki articles that regurgitate allegations from an anti Fox movie, to your complaint that Fox News actually reports real news that you just don’t want to hear. |
I was waiting for this. When you were going to try and discredit the memos. Tell me. Do you have any evidence that they weren't leaked? Seems to me like even the people who worked at FOX acknowledge the validity of the memos.
Fox News: The inside story - Salon.com Quote:
It was all too much for Charlie Reina to take. Reina, 55, spent six years at Fox as a producer, copy editor and writer, working both on hard news stories and on feature programs like "News Watch" and "After Hours." He quit in April, he says, in a fit of frustration over salary, job assignments and respect. Since that time, he has watched the debate over whether Fox is really "fair and balanced." He held his fire, bit his tongue. But then he heard Chris Wallace -- an outsider to Fox, for now -- proclaim the network fair. Reina couldn't remain silent any longer, and so he fired off a long post to Jim Romenesko's message board at the Poynter Institute. In his view, he was setting the Fox record straight.
"The fact is," Reina wrote, "daily life at FNC is all about management politics." Reina said that Fox's daily news coverage -- and its daily news bias -- is driven by an "editorial note" sent to the newsroom every morning by John Moody, a Fox senior vice president. The editorial note -- a memo posted on Fox's computer system -- tells the staff which correspondents are working on which stories. But frequently, Reina says, it also contains hints, suggestions and directives on how to slant the day's news -- invariably, he says, in a way that's consistent with the politics and desires of the Bush administration. |
Obviously the memos could be off. But I seriously doubt that somebody who worked AT FNC would not know what goes on day to day.