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Old 07-16-08, 05:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Iran's Nuclear Ambtions --- Phase 1 -- Delivery System

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Originally Posted by Vader View Post
North Korea is in the process of destroying (so they say) their nuclear arsenal.

NK is still a threat;
NK is a threat due to its conventional forces and its ability to act as a black market supplier of know how. They ain't going to use their weapon unless the face annihilation. NK's regime derives its legitimacy from the US being a boogey man. One of the oldest forms of national unity is external threats. If we got chummy with NK, they'd fall apart. Unlike SK, there is no other form of legitimacy, such as economic prosperity or democracy.

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however, Iran is possibly the foremost nuclear threat in the world at this moment.
Nope. That would be Pakistan. Iran's government isn't going anywhere soon. Iranian nukes aren't as big of a threat as Pakistani nukes. Pakistan's government could be gone tomorrow and their nuclear weapons assembled and controlled by Islamic terrorists. That's frightening. Obama could have been prophetic when he said that we'll need to invade Pakistan at some future point.

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Also ... NK's people didn't revolt against Pyonyang ... the Iranians WILL rebel against the government in Tehran (most Iranians dislike the mullahs and Aminajackoff).
Therefore you don't support an attack or an embargo then? The last administration in Iran had the Mullahs on the brink of losing power. Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech pushed massive support for the Mullahs. Way to go Bush. Embargoing or attacking Iran would do the same thing. America posing again as a threat to Iran and taking or threatening action. Not a good way to support anti-Mullah groups. If you really want to support those groups, we should be bombing them with packages of video cameras, pirate radio equipment, printing presses, satellite uplinks, all kinds of stuff to promote freedom of the press and ways to get their messages to the world.

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I think a HUGE embargo that terminates all Iranian imports and exports will force Iran's hand. They will cease enchrichment and missle building activities or they will end up in economic ruin.
Or push the people to support the Mullahs even more. Besides, Russia and China would veto that so fast your head would spin.

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Iran WILL give in or the regieme WILL be overthrown! Which alternative do you think is more frightning to the ruling ****bags in Iran?

Neither. Both would likely drive non-supporters to support the Mullahs.
I'll agree that Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons, but they are also trying to get civilian power too.
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