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Zyphlin · 07-03-08, 12:06 PM

I swear you've become more and more blindly partisan in your statements every single month it seems.

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

You know Zyphlin, this is the product of a two party system. Yes, there are other parties, but the big two effectively squash their voice.

And that is pertinent to the case how? My whole issue was the annoyance that people seem to be voting for someone on the simple and absolute basis of "Change". If that was REALLY the point, then why not fully go for change and break away from the two parties as well. Basically, what annoys me, is that most of these people that are saying they're doing it for Change aren't ACTUALLY doing it for Change, that's just what they've been sold.

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People vote like it's a horse race. They generally want to say that they voted for the winner moreso than they want to vote on the issues

Then once again, they're not voting for "Change", they're voting for a winner and have been selled a bill of goods to make them feel better about just bandwagon jumping.

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Conservatives weren't being very conservative when they re-elected Bush.

That has to do with this discussion.........what exactly? And even with that in mind, Kerry would've been a better option for the conservatives?

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They can try to use 9/11 as an excuse for abandoning their principles, but critical thinkers realize that is admitting the terrorists have succeded.

Ahh, so by your astounding perfect logic "critical thinkers" = "anyone that agree's with me"

My issue is not that its not natural for people to do this. My issue is the fact it makes me sad to think that people have been so easily duped by this "Change" message to realize that if that was REALLY what they wanted, there are even bigger agents of change. You're right, its a bunch of people with no care to actually learn a damn thing about the candidate, but latched onto a bunch of platitudes to make themselves feel better about just voting or supporting the guy that's at the front of the bandwagon currently.

It makes me a bit sad and sick to my stomach to know that the amount of people that are actually likely well informed and have legitimate reasons for voting one way another outside of a simple abstract thought that doesn't even fit perfectly like "Change" are completely and utterly out numbered in almost any election by the vast amount of people that vote for stupid ass reasons.