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Lean: Slightly Conservative Gender:  | Re: 9/11 being an inside job Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Alright, but noone has addressed the points made by the video I have in my OP. That video raised up many valid points like :
1) Where is the wreckage on impact? Parts of the plane Boeing 757 and its fuel that it was carrying? No evidence of either r anywhere after impact and vids showing the collision area show none of either plane parts nor burnt fuel on ground. The plane was 60 tonnes and it was carrying 5300 gallons of diesel on impact so where r all of it? How can the ground be cleared of it all (even if there is a cleanup job done so quickly) u would at least see a diesel soaked ground and grass...
2) Airplane crashes leave wreckage.... they mess up the ground ... where r those wing parts? even if u remove those wing parts, those wing parts will show on collision impact with the walls of the Pentagon, or show on the ground and grass as it was broken apart.
3) The Boeing 757 was flying 530 mph 2 feet above the ground? How can it fly that low? Just thinking about it is absurd. It seemed more like a missile that hit the Pentagon. So many witnesses said they heard a whoosh sound like a missile rather than a plane. Noone saw the Boeing 757 of any evidence of a plane that hit it as well.
4) The hole shown in the video made by a circle r pretty small, not like those made by a wide-diameter Boeing 757, more like a missile made those instead of a plane, besides where r the wing part entry at collision? For the plane to hit the 3rd concentric ring of the Pentagon, logic assumes that the wings also hit the outer ring of the Pentagon and r left outside. So where r the wing part collision into the walls of the Pentagon?
Would appreciate if u guys can address these points and convince me that a plane did that not a missile. | Im sorry that i have to bring this back up but yes popular mechanics
now last time i brought this up there was a big denouncing of it, like there is of anything that says there is no conspiracy. Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics Quote:
FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.
Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."
The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide — not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.
| also theres this: Pentagon - Debunk911myths Quote:
This claim ignores the fact that several passengers made phone calls and reported that the plane was hijacked.
* Renee May phoned her mother, and reported that the flight was hijacked.
* Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, and reported the hijacking. She also told her husband that the hijackers had knives and box cutters.
See also: Phone calls
Eyewitnesses
The claim also ignores the numerous eyewitnesses who report seeing the plane crash into the Pentagon, but not one reports seeing a missile.
* Mike Walter (video)
* Terry Morin - eyewitness account
"There were pieces of aircraft spread all the way up the road, at least a third of a mile from the impact site." - a witness speaking to a local CBS reporter. [1]
* More witness accounts
Impact
Aircraft debris
More photos and witness accounts: Pentagon debris
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