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Old 06-19-08, 06:08 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Re: Religion conflicting with Facts

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Originally Posted by galenrox View Post
So I see once again you've chosen not to present an explanation as to why said distinction was in any way, shape, or form significant to the topic of discussion. I wonder why...
Can't help you there if you can't understand the relationship.

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Originally Posted by galenrox
And what is God? I have presented my definition derived from the Christian bible where God is that which is in and of all things and which all things are in and of, which by Einstein's insight that all matter is convertible into energy fits said description. I have stated this many times, and so either you've got a problem reading or a problem understanding if you are forced to continually ask questions which have already been answered.
See you just can't do that. That's called cherry picking. You derive bits and pieces of the christian bible and ignore everything else and manage to call that logical? Einstein did not ever say that energy was god, nor does the bible ever say that god is energy. You're fickle dishonest attempt is just that - rubbish.

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You know, that's exactly what I did, I just went around in circles with a conclusion that says "look I did it I proved that energy is god". What an astute observation.
I'm glad recognize such. Took only what - 50million posts - better late then never

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As I've defined God I've shown energy is God, so either you can challenge the definition of energy or the definition of God. You've chosen to do neither and to instead whine and insult me while contributing absolutely nothing of merit to this conversation. And if that's the best you can do, well, at least you tried.
Then your definition is utterly pointless. I could say by my definition I am god.

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Oh wow, you really got me here

So let's once again go through what you've asserted as a supposedly relevant argument - that you are in a position to tell me what I believe against my statements to the contrary because I'm able to make statements about science, and to suggest otherwise is to undermine this forum. Pretty flawless logic there!
Rather that you chose to make up a definition of god and make up a definition of energy then proclaim that it all fits in perfectly by your definition and that thus it is so - aka bull****.

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Yes, do you?
Yet you're here proclaiming that since I'm making the statement that the default position of energy is that it is without any form of sentience or deity that it's a claiming a negative? Keep telling yourself that gal.

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Right, because pages and pages of answering every argument presented against me is really indicative of my fear of having my views challenged! You found me out! I only present counterpoints out of a secret rage that anyone would have the gall to challenge my positions, and it has absolutely nothing to do with your arguments consisting of nothing other than nonsense and insults!
No rather that your argumentative style is to say - it's all my own definition and hence you can't challenge it and thus I am right. Typical of some one that has no clue as to that which they are discussing about but attempting to seem relevant.
The definition to which you provided of god and energy is neither rational scientifically nor rational in the christian community - only in the mind of gal and gal alone.

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Define divinity.
You're the superstitious theist you should know.

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So you admit that this is an ad hominem string of argumentation?
Showing that you do not know what you are talking about is not ad hominem. If I said simply stated that you are dumb and that's the end of it yes that would be ad hominem. However what I am doing instead is showing how your statements show that you don't know what you are talking about.
Liken to the way of seeing the sun rise in your mirror that faces west and saying ah ha "the sun rises in the west" kind of thing. You have some knowledge about certain objects but the knowledge is only half the story. Yet most likely due to academic laziness you don't care to dwell any deeper into the concepts and simply use a half arse understanding of the principles and proclaim it is so. ie all energy is the same and comprises of everything - since god is everything thus energy is god.
Utterly absurd, you might as well worship something more material such as toilet paper.

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It is, just in a different form as a product of environmental features (evidenced by the ability of conversion).
Again, after having shown you how it's not the same you go right back again in a full circle and proclaiming it is the same. Academic laziness.

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I could throw in a string of insults to if it would help hammer this **** through your ****ing skull, but I've had discussions with you before and so I'm fully aware of your tenuous (at best) relationship with any form of logic or argumentation that nothing could hammer it into your skull.
I'm shivering in my little shoes. There you go again, the old gal is back, continuous insults because it's just so cool to be hurling them around like some wannabe badarse who's raging against the system threatening members to go on and challenging members to follow track and turn it into a **** tossing fest where you get to throw warnings.
I'm attacking your ideas and depth of knowledge in the scientific principles not you personally, you needn't toss around borderline insults to prove that you're some kind of tough guy.
What happened to civility a must? So can you keep this to the ideas or do you have to make this about individuals?

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