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Originally Posted by obvious Child  Well, until we get watergate like tapes proving that Bush knew what he was saying was totally untrue, we can't call Bush a liar.
However, the intel that he did use we know was totally crap and the sources much of it came from were flagged as unreliable by our allies well before we invaded.
Did Bush Cherry pick? Of course.
Did Bush change the intelligence standards? Of course
Did Bush ignore information that contridicted the argumemt? Of course
But did he LIE?
Get me some tapes. And then we'll talk. |
Like I said, each of the lies I listed can be verified.
For one, the 2002 NIE proves that Condoleeza Rice lied when she said the centrifuge tubes were "only really suited" for nuclear weapons programs, because it shows the leading scientists
at the time were saying they were "poorly suited" for that purpose. She said that several months after the NIE had been released to the policy makers.
For two, the 2002 NIE also proves that Bush himself lied when he said Hussein might give WMDs to terrorists, because the NIE's assessment
at the time was that the likelihood of Hussein doing that was low unless he was being invaded.
All the others are verifiable just the same. And honestly, "we've never been stay the course" and "we do not torture" are no-brainers.