Originally Posted by Australianlibertarian

It is symptomatic of Britain's identity crisis.

Up until recently what bound England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in a Union, was in part a strong belief in the righteousness of the Protestant faith, and the need to united together to defeat Popery. I know this because I was born in the West of Scotland, Glasgow, were many Scots are strong Unionists.... Anyway for much of British history there was a shared belief amongst its people of King, Country and Faith.

But things have started to fall apart.

After WWII, Britain started to change, people become less religious, people saw themselves less as Britons, and more as Englishmen, Scots, Welshmen, etc. The collective identify was starting to break down.

Now if you add this cultural identity breakdown, with the cultural relativism of multiculturalism supported by the left, and the BBC's constant re-enforcing of the this message, what you get is nothing more than blatant accommodation of Islamists. Why? In Britain there is nothing left to stand for.....

Most Britons do not relate to the Royal Family, do not trust the politicians, look down on America, and have had all their self-worth sapped out of them by the welfare state. The people are left with politicians that reflect their apathy.

Britain will only start fighting for itself, when the apathetic left are shown up as the cultural nihilists that they are. Britain will only start fighting for itself, when the Left drops the ideology of multiculturalism, and actually enforces secularism, which is something the left used to stand for. Ironically the torch of secularism, (in many Western nations) has been passed over from the left, to center-right or moderate parties....

Why? Secular conservatives or moderates that believe in integration as opposed to multiculturalism, actually value, liberalism, freedom of speech, pluralistic thought, enlightenment, women's liberation, sexual liberation, freedom FROM religion etc because many conservatives are not hindered by Marxist-Leninist guilt trips associated with 'cultural imperialism', 'capitalist patriarchy', etc. Secular moderates and secular conservatives are not bound by cultural relativism. They can see that Western values are worth fighting for and something that all mankind should have access to, and that ultimately these values of philosophical Enlightenment are probably a lot better at fostering the integration of immigrants, and the neutering of religious fanaticism.

Britain needs to understand the history of the Republic of Turkey, and read the ideas and ideology of Kamalism, and understand the importance of secularism to the Turkish Republic. Only then will Britain understand the importance of fighting the Islamists, and only then will they understand the reasons not to give an inch to irrationality, bigotry and religious conservatism.