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Who gets your vote for President?

Who gets your vote for President?

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Navy Pride said:
Your not paying attention......I explained that...............The forum members lean far left.........The non members voting are the silent majority.............This is how it will go in the general election.........
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Ah yes the "Silent Majority" who don't post on here and never vote on polls on this forum but 400 seemed to deem it necessary to vote in this one single poll. :roll:

I hope in the general election people that don't exist aren't able to vote.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
I really, really hate to rain on your parade (okay, so that's a lie), but I'm about as far from being a left-winger as it is possible to be in your limited understanding of the political spectrum.

I just happen to think that a poll on an internet forum is a straw poll.
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You'll have to excuse Navy. He has a long history of accusing anyone of being in the left merely because they disagreed with him. Back on another forum where I met him in 2003, he accused me of being a liberal for attacking Bush on his reckless fiscal spending policies. Then he accused me of being on the left when I criticized Bush for defecating on the Constitution. And when I argued that corporate welfare was a bad thing and that big oil should be forced to compete in a free market, he accused me of being a socialist.

Funny stuff isn't it?

Remember, Navy uses the following definition for liberal/leftist: Anyone who he disagrees with.
 
I pay far more in taxes than I receive in government services. Thus McCain represents my interests better than the looter's candidate Obama. If you are a net tax payer, a business owner or someone who values the shooting sports, McCain is far better
 
TurtleDude said:
I pay far more in taxes than I receive in government services. Thus McCain represents my interests better than the looter's candidate Obama.
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From a purely selfish view, yes. You'll probably have a higher relative tax burden compared to the person struggling to provide himself with the essentials, if Obama is president than you will if McCain is president.

TurtleDude said:
If you are a business owner
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Dubious at best. I see little evidence that McCain would be better for business than Obama.

TurtleDude said:
or someone who values the shooting sports, McCain is far better
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Are you suggesting that Obama is going to try to outlaw shooting sports and/or the guns used for shooting sports? :lol:
 
Kandahar said:
From a purely selfish view, yes. You'll probably have a higher relative tax burden compared to the person struggling to provide himself with the essentials, if Obama is president than you will if McCain is president.



Dubious at best. I see little evidence that McCain would be better for business than Obama.



Are you suggesting that Obama is going to try to outlaw shooting sports and/or the guns used for shooting sports? :lol:
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Selfish is what motivates the tax hikers. Rich dems use the promise of soaking the rich to buy the votes of the poor. I have always believed that wanting to keep more of what you earned is far less selfish than craving the property of others to buy yourself votes

As to the shooting sports-Obama has called for a complete ban on semi automatics. Half the shooting sports I have participated in are dominated by semi autos.

If you believe one gun should be banned "for public safety" then you have really made up your mind that gun bans are good. I have never met someone who would ever say where they would stop

gun banners are like faith healers-when their first round of "treatments" do not work, they do not admit that their cures are worthless-they maintain that more treatments are needed
 
TurtleDude said:
Selfish is what motivates the tax hikers. Rich dems use the promise of soaking the rich to buy the votes of the poor. I have always believed that wanting to keep more of what you earned is far less selfish than craving the property of others to buy yourself votes
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It's got nothing to do with "soaking the rich." Most economists believe that people who earn more should pay proportionally more in taxes.

TurtleDude said:
As to the shooting sports-Obama has called for a complete ban on semi automatics. Half the shooting sports I have participated in are dominated by semi autos.

If you believe one gun should be banned "for public safety" then you have really made up your mind that gun bans are good. I have never met someone who would ever say where they would stop

gun banners are like faith healers-when their first round of "treatments" do not work, they do not admit that their cures are worthless-they maintain that more treatments are needed
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Do you really think that these gun bans are ever going to go anywhere on the national level, regardless of who is president? A few years ago, the Democratic Party's gun agenda revolved around peripheral issues like safety locks, waiting periods, and registration. Nowadays, they've mostly given up even on THOSE ideas. Politicians understand that gun control is a political loser.
 
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This does show us something telling however if we look at just the actual DP posters...

The majority of active democrats and "independents" that obviously lean left are voting for Obama.

HOWEVER

There are a large amount of Republican/Conservative people that frequently post whose names are quite unmistakenly missing from the McCain side. Interestingly enough, I'd almost wager they would be enough to put him on even keel or farther beyond Obama.
 
Kandahar said:
It's got nothing to do with "soaking the rich." Most economists believe that people who earn more should pay proportionally more in taxes.



Do you really think that these gun bans are ever going to go anywhere on the national level, regardless of who is president? A few years ago, the Democratic Party's gun agenda revolved around peripheral issues like safety locks, waiting periods, and registration. Nowadays, they've mostly given up even on THOSE ideas. Politicians understand that gun control is a political loser.
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most economists are getting government subsidies:mrgreen: and are rarely high tax payers They also ignore the fact that there are many good reasons for tax cuts and I find Progressive taxes to be anathema to fairness. More than half of this country's history did not involve such taxes and we need to get rid of them because they foster an environment where a majority of the voters can continue to raise taxes on the minority that pay most the taxes and the latter has no recourse


I heard the same nonsense about guns in England, Australia, NJ and Kalifornia-we were told we were paranoid to think that guns woulld be banned

you can say it won't happen but

1) I am not buying it

2) and why vote for someone who has made banning guns a major part of his platform in the past?
 
Southern Belle said:
That's kind of what I was thinking... If you don't vote you really can't complain about what they elected president does. Sure you can dislike all the candidates, but if the one elected doesn't fit your views you could have at least tried to get the one most agreeing with you in office. If you really don't want to vote, then maybe you can take a break worrying about it until the next presidential election?

Just an idea. It looks more serious written out like, I'm telling you not to complain if you don't vote, but it's just a thought. :)
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I agree but am torn because even if you do not vote should you not still be allowed free speech? In my heart I feel you do not vote? You did not do your part so really have no right nor reason to bitch since you did not vote and do your part. On other hand freedom of speech is our right. So I dunno. :doh
 
Kali said:
I agree but am torn because even if you do not vote should you not still be allowed free speech? In my heart I feel you do not vote? You did not do your part so really have no right nor reason to bitch since you did not vote and do your part. On other hand freedom of speech is our right. So I dunno. :doh
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Yep, I agree. ^^ As for me, if I didn't vote I wouldn't feel right talking bad about anybody, you know? But that's me... At the end of the day I guess everyone'll do what they feel like. I would feel funny if I didn't vote. This'll be my second presidential vote. I voted for Bush last time so he could finish whatever plans he had for the war, so Kerry couldn't bring them home too early and mess stuff up, about the same reasons I want McCain to win.
 
Jerry said:
It doesn't make any sense, though.
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Hmm, it does if you think about it... It's not like in the constitution though, you don't get killed for it. But why doesn't it make sense?

You don't see something funny about "So-in-so got nominated so I'm moving to Canada but I didn't feel like voting cause I didn't need to!"

Now that I think about it, I think I must have read it somewhere after Bush beat Kerry.
 
Hmm, it does if you think about it... It's not like in the constitution though, you don't get killed for it. But why doesn't it make sense?
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If it were "like in the constitution" though, it would mean that women, black people, and in fact everyone except white, property-owning males could "get killed for" criticizing the president.
Because most people weren't allowed to vote, originally.
However, the constitution didn't apply to those people either at the time, so perhaps they wouldn't have much cared about abiding by it.
 
1069 said:
If it were "like in the constitution" though, it would mean that women, black people, and in fact everyone except white, property-owning males could "get killed for" criticizing the president.
Because most people weren't allowed to vote, originally.
However, the constitution didn't apply to those people either at the time, so perhaps they wouldn't have much cared about abiding by it.
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I meant the Constitution doesn't say "Those who chose not to vote cannot critisize" and I wasn't thinking about anybody who CAN'T vote, like kids or people who can't get to the polls. I was thinking about people who WON'T vote.

But oh well, it's just an idea. I'm probably the only one who thinks about it because I think too much. I wasn't commanding y'all or anything, lol. :2wave:
 
Jerry said:
If anything, you loose the right to complain about whoever you vote for if they win, because you helped put him there.

How is the oposit true?
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Well I agree with that as well. But that would really mess up forum conversation because everybody would be calling each other partisan so bad because they couldn't say anything bad about their candidate! :lol:
 
View Poll Results: Who gets your vote for President?
McCain 421 44.64%
Obama 522 55.36%

Oh, for the love of Jebus. This would be funny if I didn't know that someone was voting, erasing their cookies, and voting again hundreds of times over. There's gotta be a better way to spend your day.
 
Adrian said:
View Poll Results: Who gets your vote for President?
McCain 421 44.64%
Obama 522 55.36%

Oh, for the love of Jebus. This would be funny if I didn't know that someone was voting, erasing their cookies, and voting again hundreds of times over. There's gotta be a better way to spend your day.
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"Well you know what opinions are like and everybody has one..........Bottom line your guy is getting killed in this poll.........The people have spoken........"

;)
 
Skip said:
"Well you know what opinions are like and everybody has one..........Bottom line your guy is getting killed in this poll.........The people have spoken........"

;)
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Navy Pride isn't worth losing hours of your life over.
 
Southern Belle said:
Yep, I agree. ^^ As for me, if I didn't vote I wouldn't feel right talking bad about anybody, you know? But that's me... At the end of the day I guess everyone'll do what they feel like. I would feel funny if I didn't vote. This'll be my second presidential vote. I voted for Bush last time so he could finish whatever plans he had for the war, so Kerry couldn't bring them home too early and mess stuff up, about the same reasons I want McCain to win.
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Yeah.. I mean I want EVERY person in this country who can legally vote to vote and if they do not? I guess I do not wanna hear them crying about it. Example is one of my brothers and he is so disgusted that he says he will not vote but he is one of the main people in my family that I talk politics with. But he is not gonna vote!

I told him he better vote and if he does not? Do not come bitching to me about anything. I really am hoping he will change his mind and vote. I really do not care who he votes for just that he needs to vote. Of course I wish him to vote for Obama but doubt it will happen. :roll:
 
Jerry said:
If anything, you loose the right to complain about whoever you vote for if they win, because you helped put him there.

How is the oposit true?
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WTH? You cannot be serious! If I vote for someone and they are not doing a good job? I should have every right to scream that from the rooftops.

You have some really strange ideas. :shock:
 
Southern Belle said:
I meant the Constitution doesn't say "Those who chose not to vote cannot critisize" and I wasn't thinking about anybody who CAN'T vote, like kids or people who can't get to the polls. I was thinking about people who WON'T vote.

But oh well, it's just an idea. I'm probably the only one who thinks about it because I think too much. I wasn't commanding y'all or anything, lol. :2wave:
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Jerry thinks the word Negro is OK! So that says a lot about that mans thinking! :roll:
 
Adrian said:
Navy Pride isn't worth losing hours of your life over.
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Oh don't worry about me. I only voted 30 times which cost me about five minutes. Hatuey's the real culprit here.
 
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