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Old 05-30-08, 10:23 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Re: When does Motherhood Start?

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Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
The "right" choice is compromised by manipulating the language to make it appear that the death of a living organism is irrelevant. "Pregnancy" involves that living organism--without it, one is not pregnant. One doesn't "abort a pregnancy," one aborts a conceptus--the organism--since one cannot be "pregnant" without the organism. Regardless of whether the conceptus is implanted in the womb or not, it is a living organism and to intentionally create conditions that will flush it out of its natural environment is an abortive act. To obfuscate the issue of what is aborted, for the social benefit perceived by Dr. Boving and adopted by the ACOG in 1965, the longstanding definition of pregnancy was limited to after conception to allow for abortifacient contraception to be considered non-abortive. It was calculated and employed. If that's not an agenda, how do you define having an agenda? There was a specific goal and action taken to bring that goal about.
The earlier definition of pregnancy was used before experts really understood the process of fertilization and pregnancy. Defining pregnancy as after implantation reflects a more complete understanding of what is happening. The fact that that understanding supports the use of hormonal birth control and IUDs is incidental but advantageous.






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"On demand" is colloquial. Your insisting on calling it "request" is the emotional appeal. If it's a request, that implies that the request could be denied. Do you support the right to deny a woman an abortion upon request? I didn't think so.
"On demand" is colloquial because pro-life made it colloquial, it is referred to in Europe as "on request" which is more respectful of the women seeking abortions. Of course, that request can be denied for a number of reasons. The doctor doesn't choose to do abortions, the pregnancy is too advanced, etc. The request should not be denied on the basis of age, race, money, perhaps other reasons which basically mean that "I think I know better than you what is good for you."
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