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Old 05-20-08, 09:03 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Thread Starter Re: Left Coming to Terms with Their Own Bigotry

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No, but using it as the basis for a rant against Affirmative Action is. The two are unrelated.
What exactly is being distorted by me pointing out Democrats identifying Democrat racism in WV and then pointing out that Democrat racism also comes from the onther direction?

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Huh?
Yo're not for affirmative action. I was saying, then you're the exception that proves the rule.

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Affirmative Action is not racism. It is racial, and there may be better ways to do things, but it is not racism.
Giving career and educational advantages to people and denying it to others based on race is racism, any way you slice it.

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A century ago? The 50's and 60's where a century ago?
Slavery was around in the 50s and 60s? I thought that was the injustice that warrants all this racist discrimination against white people today. I suppose when you're making excuses for people who never even experienced racial injustices, there really is no rhyme or reason to where you draw the line.

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You are right, the American Dream promises the opportunity to achieve success. In fact, that is important. Black Americans by and large have fewer opportunities for that success.
No they don't. There are far more poor white people than poor black people.

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I doubt it is the best method, but the goal of equal opportunity is to my mind a good one. I personally think AA is bad because it breeds resentment, which is long term damaging to society, and because it attacks the symptom of the problem, instead of the cause. Neither of these objections to it make it racism though.
Right. What makes it racism is giving career and educational advantages to people and denying it to others based on race, which you would be the first to admit if such racist proposals were made for whites at the expense of blacks.
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