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Old 05-18-08, 11:00 PM   #148 (permalink)
Ethereal
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Re: Do you wish the abortion argument would go away?

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No, you were disputing the validity of the comparison, now that you have been proven wrong you change your position.
How have you proven the comparison to be valid?

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Again, no. There is nowhere in this thread an agreement to that assumption. It is solely yours just as was the implication that anyone agreed to it.
Fine, just forget it. It doesn't matter anyway.

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It has as much validity as your dismissal of the commonality between parasites and fetuses. "It is a meaningless commonality that infers nothing beyond itself" you said.
How is it equally valid? I provided a multitude of reasons why the commonality is irrelevant, whereas your dismissal has no reason or logic to support it.

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Being influential, or referred to does not make a law. In case you did not know, a law is passed by Congress and it is enforced not referred to.
Do you believe in the concept of rights or not?

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Well, you obviously missed it, the poiunt is, as it has been pointed out already, that the same men who declared the self-evidence of the equality never respected it. Had they meant it it would have been included into the Constitution, but they were smart enough to know that.
It is in the Constitution - Fourteenth Amendment. It is also enshrined in Federal and state criminal law which forbids the murder of another person. Also, why must the concept of rights and equality suffer from the sins of those who concieved it?

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That too, but more importantly you wrong interpretation of it. After all if equality and a right of life was guaranteed by the Constitution at the time of its writing, it was hardly necessary to reassert it almost 100 years later.
Regardless, the Constitution asserts a right to life, as does the United Nations.

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And for the Nth time, but not for blacks women and children.
Show me where the Founding Fathers enacted legislation which excluded any specific demographic from these rights.

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For the Nth+1 time, that is not part of the Constitution.
It is really not that difficult to grasp. Why are you being so obtuse about it?
Pay attention. You said...

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That may be self-evident to all with half a brain, to the rest of us with whole brains it is evident that it does not exist.
You said that people with whole brains do not recognize the self-evidence of rights, so I quoted the Founding Father's in order to demonstrate that people with full brains are capable of recognizing it. It's quite simple. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
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