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Old 05-18-08, 08:29 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Re: Do you wish the abortion argument would go away?

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Originally Posted by Ethereal
I am disputing the context.
No, you were disputing the validity of the comparison, now that you have been proven wrong you change your position.

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You jumped into the middle of a debate. I cannot be held responsible for your failure to recognize an established context. The point you were adressing had a specific context and I assumed you knew what it was.
Again, no. There is nowhere in this thread an agreement to that assumption. It is solely yours just as was the implication that anyone agreed to it.

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This is not a valid rebuttal. You must specifically adress why it makes no sense. Simply labeling something as nonsensical doesn't make it so.
It has as much validity as your dismissal of the commonality between parasites and fetuses. "It is a meaningless commonality that infers nothing beyond itself" you said.

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Not part of any law? The words and ideas of the Declaration of Independence pervade every facet of American jurisprudence, most notably the United States Constitution. References to the Declaration of Independence have been made by every President and Justice of the Supreme Court in order to rationalize some piece of legislation or judicial review. It is at the core of American principles and the bedrock of American ideology. It is the single most influential document in American history.
Being influential, or referred to does not make a law. In case you did not know, a law is passed by Congress and it is enforced not referred to.

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What's your point?
Well, you obviously missed it, the poiunt is, as it has been pointed out already, that the same men who declared the self-evidence of the equality never respected it. Had they meant it it would have been included into the Constitution, but they were smart enough to know that.

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So, you're not contesting that the wording in the fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution is derivitive of the Declaration of Independence?
That too, but more importantly you wrong interpretation of it. After all if equality and a right of life was guaranteed by the Constitution at the time of its writing, it was hardly necessary to reassert it almost 100 years later.
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