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Old 05-08-08, 01:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Olympic torch cheered through Hong Kong

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Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
Could you explain why it would be provocative and add insult to injury for a Chinese to support Tibetan separatism? Whether on Chinese soil or on Western soil?
1. You have changed the words and, therefore the meaning, of my statement. Nowhere in my original statement had I mentioned anything about "Western soil". Below is the original statement in my previous message:

"[In my opinion], it would be provocative and adding insult to injury for somebody, especially a Chinese citizen, [to support Tibetan separatism by protesting with a Tibetan flag which is officially banned because it is a symbol of Tibetan separatism] on Chinese soil."

Whatever others are doing in their own countries is beyond the control of the Chinese. Hence, my answer will focus only on Chinese citizens' protests with the "Free Tibet" flag on Chinese soil.

A Chinese journalist working for Reuter's Greater China region had said that the protests at the Olympic Torch relay was akin to presenting a coffin to somebody at his birthday party.

Extending the analogy, besides getting a coffin as a birthday present from his enemy, the man also received another coffin for his wife on the same day. The second coffin was sent by the man's brother who was fighting for the family property left by the man's father who passed away a few months ago. Aren't the actions of the man's enemy and brother provocative?

Worse, both the coffins were carried into the house by the man's four sons who were eager to inherit their father's share of the family property. Aren't the actions of man's sons akin to adding insult to injury? The man could even die of heart attack when he saw his sons willingly used by others to go against him.

2. In conclusion, here is a real life example. The killing of thousands of Americans in the September 11 attacks prompted less a sense of grief than one of pleasure in the Muslim world. For instance in the following video clip, the Palestinians celebrated with glee on the streets in the wake of the September 11 terror attacks.


YouTube - Palestinian PROTEST Against the US on 9-11



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I was most heartily encouraged to see the very first Chinese citizen protesting against Chinese rule in/of Tibet was actually on Chinese soil. None elsewhere in the world have said anything.
An AP news from Honolulu on May 1, 2008, headlined "Hawaiian sovereignty seekers take over palace grounds", reported that "Native Hawaiian sovereignty advocates briefly chained shut the gates of a historic palace, saying they were reclaiming land of the Hawaiian monarchy that was stolen during the overthrow of the kingdom more than 100 years ago".

Please refer to Hawaiian sovereignty seekers take over palace grounds - Boston.com

I was most heartily encouraged to see the very first group of local sovereignty seekers protesting against American rule in/of Hawaii was actually on American-occupied soil. None elsewhere in the world have said anything.

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jfuh has already gone some way to answering your point but...
The principles of free speech may be something you need to study further if you think police brutality is either a result of or caused by Free Speech?
That is not my point of view. My opinion is that no nations, not even the Western democratic countries, can tolerate ALL protests without some forms of police intervention, brutality or arrests at some time or another.
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