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Old 04-22-08, 08:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Palestinian Terrorist Groups and Collective Punishment of Palestinians

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What in the hell didn’t you understand about “The Hamas cannot operate without the support of the local populace.” Reread it a few times until it dawns on you what the statement is saying. But just in case you still don’t get it which I’m already getting the feeling you wont how about you read this.
Ah so you and Donsutherland disagree between hamas and the gazans as the cause, correct?

Thank you for the link, what does it prove? Not very much. For example, when Israel was under suicide bomb attack did it make them move closer to peace or further away from it? Exactly, in fact they elected Ariel Sharon on a hard line platform. Yet you expect the opposite from the Gazans! lol.

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That would be you crying “victim hood”. Reread the above post and link again. If it still doesn’t help try printing it out and stapling it to your forehead.
If the Hamas with the support of the people of Gaza. (Did you understand that or do you need it in crayon this time with pictures?) didn’t launch attacks on Israel each and every day, what reasons would the IDF have to attack anything in Gaza?
Ive already told you, its not me crying 'victimhood'. Its you trying to pretend the israelis are not restricting and bombing gaza, when everyone across the world can see and hear the reality that even the israelis admit. The correct question is why does Israel continue to break cease fires and avoid talks with Hamas?

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Try again…beave..

“How far along would the Israeli / Abbas negotiations be if it wasn’t for the Hamas take over and declaring of Gaza “A new Islamic state” and the daily rocket attacks on Israel?”
Already answered Mr Red Indian..whatever guy. See below;
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Ummm, thats a good question, lemme see now... Given that Hamas has been unable to stop the movement and communications of Israel or Abbas since they took over, seeing as they are trapped in gaza. Probably not much further.
Its obvious the answer would not be in the tea leaves because we're talking about past not the future. But keep drinking anyway, the flavinoids are good for you.
q. You mean like when Israel gave Gaza back and the Hamas started launching rockets?
Those types of land grabs?
a. Like when Israel continued its long term assasination policy and and still keeps all the rest of the land it originally grabbed. Yes, those types of land grabs.

q. Sorry but anyone who believes the hamas are not a terrorist group is just plain retarded.
You call them a “resistance movement” Resistance to what? Yes that’s a loaded question. Think very hard before you answer it.
a. No question format this time? ok.
The people of Gaza and much of the rest of the world are all retards? Try proving that in court smart guy. Resistance to what? To israel of course, read their charter. Yet you dare call others 'retards'.lol.

q. It was an example. Now that its been cleared up would you like to try and answer it?
a. As soon as you can form a sensible question with relevant examples, sure sport.

q.Gee wiz beaver isn’t the dominate religion in Palestine Islam?
a. Well Golly jeepers Red Indian Guy, does everyone tagged under a worldwide religion also have to be a fundamentalist? Is that the case then in the US?

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q. Yes, yes a “strong, resolute and righteous government” who clearly states in their charter the elimination of every “Jew” in Palestine and the total destruction of Israel.
A government which teaches elementary school kids to hero-worship suicide bombers, inspiring them to become a martyr killing as many “Evil Jews” as he or she can.
A government that has no problems planning and carrying out suicide bombings against
targets such as School buses, Market places and restaurants no caring who they kill as long as its Jewish.
Is that your idea of a “righteous government”
a. No its their idea sport. And theyd know alot more about it than you or I.

q.Is that not the actions of said people?….
a. No sport. The actions of a person do not give away the why i.e. the reasons for, the said action. To find that one requires context. Thats part of what I suggest you look into sometime...
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