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Originally Posted by Bad Biscuit
This is confusing. One of you says 'its not Israel its Hamas thats doing the collective punishment - on their own people!' then the next one says 'its the people of gaza thats doing the collective punishment - on themselves!'. So who is it? Hamas or the Gazans or Israel?
You really need to remove the blinders you wear or are they biscuts? The Hamas cannot operate without the support of the local populace. If the people of Gaza didn’t approve of the actions of Hamas and the Islamic Jihad why don’t they protest, why don’t they condemn the daily attacks carried out by the Hamas?
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If the blinders are biscuits, theyre not very good blinders. Theyre probably ring shape shortbread with a sugar dusting. Mediocre dunking material, bah!
Im only wanting to know which it is thats doing the punishment. Your side of the debate seems to be confused, is it Hamas or gazans?
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To save confusion, perhaps you should stop the spinning, take a deep breath, sip your tea and admit that Israel is indeed doing the collective punishment and that you are happy with that cos in your opinion they deserve everything they get!
The only confusion here is on your part. Maybe you need to cut back on your tea intake because it’s turning you into a whiner crying “Victim hood”.
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Who is crying victimhood? Not me. I just know from your comments that you think the Gazans deserve what they get from Israel and want you to admit that rather than whining,
'but its not really Israel doing it'!
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Answer a simple question friend. How far along would the Israeli / Abbas negotiations be if it wasn’t for the Hamas take over and declaring of Gaza “A new Islamic state” and the daily rocket attacks on Israel?
Don’t bother reading tea leaves because the answer isn’t there.
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Ummm, thats a good question, lemme see now... Given that Hamas has been unable to stop the movement and communications of Israel or Abbas since they took over, seeing as they are trapped in gaza. Probably not much further.
Its obvious the answer would not be in the tea leaves because we're talking about past not the future. But keep drinking anyway, the flavinoids are good for you.
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By the way, are you at all interested in why a normally secular minded people by the standards of the region might want to vote for a group such as hamas?
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q. You mean because the government under Arafat was corrupt to the bone?
a. Yes. Also, they accepted israeli preconditions and massive land grabs and still got nothing for it.
q. But that’s your excuse to vote in a terrorist group?
a. Thats their excuse to vote in a resistance movement. Your opinion of Hamas is irrelevant to them.
q. Bush is a total fooking moron, does that mean you’re going to vote for bin laden in November?
a. I didnt know Bin Laden was even an American Citizen far less a member of any of the US political parties.
Ok. My turn.
q. Given that they voted for a religiously inspired party after the failures of a secular party. Does that mean that they themselves are all of a sudden particularly religious? Or that they just want a strong, resolute and righteous government?
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Ive hidden a clue for you to read in your tea leaves - hamas is an arabic acronym for the Islamic resistance movement.
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That’s the problem. While you look at tea leaves for the answers I look at what people are doing. You should try it sometime...
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Yes. Thank you for the advice. I in turn advise you to try looking at why people do the things they do sometime...
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