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kathaksung · 01-17-08, 03:57 PM

524. Bin Laden's tape and dirty bomb attack on Europe (12/3/07)

Bin Laden used to issue a tape when Bush administration needs help. Or you can view it is the work of misinformation of US intelligence. 11/29/07, Osama let out another one.

The only "achievement" Bush can boast, (or he thinks he can boast for himself) is the "war on terror". Al Qaida is a tool created by US Inside Group to squeeze money and power from people. When they need a war, or pass a "Patriot Act", or for an election, Bin Laden's Al Qaida always came out to help, either by a bombing or by a tape. So was this time.

Bush's population is so low, how can his war party - GOP to win the next election? There is another war plan still needs to be fulfilled. That is war on Iran. Bin Laden must work to support Bush.

1. Bush's Iraq war was supported by Tony Blair. To show he is not alone on his war policy. For the next war, (Iran war) Bush still needs a support from Europe. It is likely he developed some supporters such like France and German. But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on to Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "Al Qaida will have a terror attack on you to push you support US".

2. It's strange to see that in this tape Bin Laden said he was the "only one responsible" for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington - six years after 911 attack.

The background of his confession is that after six years, one third of Americans realize 911 attack was an inside job. And majority of Americans think Government knew 911 attack in advance but let it happen. So government needs a strong defense lawyer. No one can be strong enough than Bin Laden. The Inside Group had push out a "defense witness" - Moussaoui. He cried loudly in court "I am Al Qaida." and admitted he was plotted to attack on 911. Bin Laden is just another Moussaoui. Their purpose are so clear and direct: " Don't doubt on Bush and his administration. I did the terror attack." Isn't that easy and convenient to suppress the suspicion on Inside Group?

Rudy Giuliani is a leading runner of president candidate. He is trumpeted by media as a 911 hero. As a matter of fact, he is a leading role to cover up the truth of 911 attack. The Inside Group needs him to go on the cover up job on a false flag attack. So they need someone to justify that 911 was a real terror attack not an inside work. Bin Laden does it in his new tape.

I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape" on 11/29 when I learned the news.(see above) One day later, another news proved my allegation.

Re: "Britain faces threat of dirty bomb attack at Christmas, Home Secretary warns
30th November 2007

Britain faces an increased threat of a "dirty bomb" attack over the Christmas period, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith warned today.

Britain faces threat of dirty bomb attack at Christmas, Home Secretary warns | the Daily Mail

525. NIE (2007) and Trojan horse (12/8/07)

On 12/3, media reported that US National Intelligence Estimate said Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. The revelation caused a debate on Bush's Iran policy. The point missing in this debate is how could such an important information be learned by government and public so late - it took more than four years. (2003 - Dec. 2007) It took three years and eight months for US to get in World War II. ( Dec. 1941 - Japan surrender Aug. 1945) If US intelligence is so incompetent, that it took four years to reach an important conclusion, then by the time when they got a NIE of "Japan will attack Pearl Harbor", the war had finished already. This NIE of Iran is absurd. It's not intelligence but National History estimate.

This new NIE on Iran (2007) is a contradict to another one (2005) which asserted that Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapon". If 2007 NIE took four years to conclude event of 2003, apply same efficiency on 2005 Assessment, does that mean "Iran seeking nuclear weapon" was something on 2001? Or more likely, this government just select information that fits its demand?

Review recent situation, Bush administration and media used to demonize Iran as a nuclear threat to the world. US had its Navy battle squadron gathered at Persian Gulf to show its force. Iran war for several times were just inches away from breaking off .

Bush administration also took a blind eye on that new assessment (Iran halted nuclear weapon programme). Bush knew that estimate in August.
Re: "Bush told Iran may have halted atom work

Thu Dec 6, 2007 7:03am GMT
By Tabassum Zakaria

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush was told in August that Iran may have suspended its nuclear weapons programme, Bush told Iran may have halted atom work | Top News | Reuters
Yet, two months later in October, he warns World War III if Iran goes nuclear. This proves he treated the NIE as a junk piece.

Then why the intelligence let out such a "junk" information (possibly a truth but not favored by Bush administration) at this time?

I think it is a part of Iran war tactic.

1, Iran will be directed to a nuclear weapon "trap". The war will be done in Bush's remnant term. Bush has a swift re-action to that new NIE. He insists Iran a threat despite new report. When Iran war breaks off, Bush will be painted as a hero.

2. A psychological operation to push Iran to a nuclear weapon trap. Iran may feel safe that Bush is under criticism for his aggressive Iran policy and accept a "special offer" from Russia's Putin. The special proposal maybe a bait of enriched uranium which can be also used in military weapon. (see #516. Iran war next stage (10/23/07)) It's a tactic to push Iran to accept a Trojan horse. Russia's nuclear deal with Iran is that Trojan horse.

Bush activated Iraq war. Bush tries to plant a Trojan horse in Iran. Bush will start war on Iran once the Trojan horse is planted.

526. Beware of a holiday season attack (12/13/07)

When I learned the new Bin Laden tape, I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape". (see #524) Then other news surged which combined with Bin Laden's new tape, could justify a dirty bomb attack in Europe. It may prove my opinion is correct: "But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "I'll push you to support US" (by terror attack on you)."

The three events (watch the time of the news date) : 1. Bin Laden's new tape. (11/29)
2. Gang selling enriched Uranium. (11/29) 3. British warns dirty bomb attack. (11/30) if you put them together, could make another perfect 911 story. Do you think they came out coincidentally? Who can manipulate these three events and make their debut at same time? (Bin Laden or Western intelligence?)
Re: Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium

Times Online
November 29, 2007

A gang arrested by Slovakian police was trafficking uranium so enriched that it could have been used by terrorists in a dirty bomb, it emerged today.

Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian man were arrested as they tried to sell the uranium last night. The consignment had been tracked by police after it came to their attention inside the former Soviet Union.

Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium - Times Online

I always said that Feds frames case with the collaboration of Russia and China. In this Christmas and New Years holiday plot, there is no exception. It's interesting that to cover up the secret deal, they use Hungarians and Ukrainian this time. But the source finally leads to Russia. All roads go to Moscow in the end. (or Beijing)

There is a lot of advantage to plot with Russia and China. 1. Even if others get suspicious and want to track, they will kick at an iron wall. These two countries belong to another camp. Litvinenko's case is a sample. 2. It's deceivable. Public won't doubt when Russia and China involve in the case. It's hard to imagine that government work with former enemies.
As for Al Qaida. It is a tool of the US intelligence. I always say so.

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kathaksung User Join Date: Sep 2007 Last Online: 09-17-08 09:01 PM Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Gender:	Re: Surveillance without warrant and August plot 524. Bin Laden's tape and dirty bomb attack on Europe (12/3/07) Bin Laden used to issue a tape when Bush administration needs help. Or you can view it is the work of misinformation of US intelligence. 11/29/07, Osama let out another one. The only "achievement" Bush can boast, (or he thinks he can boast for himself) is the "war on terror". Al Qaida is a tool created by US Inside Group to squeeze money and power from people. When they need a war, or pass a "Patriot Act", or for an election, Bin Laden's Al Qaida always came out to help, either by a bombing or by a tape. So was this time. Bush's population is so low, how can his war party - GOP to win the next election? There is another war plan still needs to be fulfilled. That is war on Iran. Bin Laden must work to support Bush. 1. Bush's Iraq war was supported by Tony Blair. To show he is not alone on his war policy. For the next war, (Iran war) Bush still needs a support from Europe. It is likely he developed some supporters such like France and German. But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on to Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "Al Qaida will have a terror attack on you to push you support US". 2. It's strange to see that in this tape Bin Laden said he was the "only one responsible" for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington - six years after 911 attack. The background of his confession is that after six years, one third of Americans realize 911 attack was an inside job. And majority of Americans think Government knew 911 attack in advance but let it happen. So government needs a strong defense lawyer. No one can be strong enough than Bin Laden. The Inside Group had push out a "defense witness" - Moussaoui. He cried loudly in court "I am Al Qaida." and admitted he was plotted to attack on 911. Bin Laden is just another Moussaoui. Their purpose are so clear and direct: " Don't doubt on Bush and his administration. I did the terror attack." Isn't that easy and convenient to suppress the suspicion on Inside Group? Rudy Giuliani is a leading runner of president candidate. He is trumpeted by media as a 911 hero. As a matter of fact, he is a leading role to cover up the truth of 911 attack. The Inside Group needs him to go on the cover up job on a false flag attack. So they need someone to justify that 911 was a real terror attack not an inside work. Bin Laden does it in his new tape. I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape" on 11/29 when I learned the news.(see above) One day later, another news proved my allegation. Re: "Britain faces threat of dirty bomb attack at Christmas, Home Secretary warns 30th November 2007 Britain faces an increased threat of a "dirty bomb" attack over the Christmas period, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith warned today. Britain faces threat of dirty bomb attack at Christmas, Home Secretary warns \| the Daily Mail 525. NIE (2007) and Trojan horse (12/8/07) On 12/3, media reported that US National Intelligence Estimate said Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. The revelation caused a debate on Bush's Iran policy. The point missing in this debate is how could such an important information be learned by government and public so late - it took more than four years. (2003 - Dec. 2007) It took three years and eight months for US to get in World War II. ( Dec. 1941 - Japan surrender Aug. 1945) If US intelligence is so incompetent, that it took four years to reach an important conclusion, then by the time when they got a NIE of "Japan will attack Pearl Harbor", the war had finished already. This NIE of Iran is absurd. It's not intelligence but National History estimate. This new NIE on Iran (2007) is a contradict to another one (2005) which asserted that Iran was "determined to develop nuclear weapon". If 2007 NIE took four years to conclude event of 2003, apply same efficiency on 2005 Assessment, does that mean "Iran seeking nuclear weapon" was something on 2001? Or more likely, this government just select information that fits its demand? Review recent situation, Bush administration and media used to demonize Iran as a nuclear threat to the world. US had its Navy battle squadron gathered at Persian Gulf to show its force. Iran war for several times were just inches away from breaking off . Bush administration also took a blind eye on that new assessment (Iran halted nuclear weapon programme). Bush knew that estimate in August. Re: "Bush told Iran may have halted atom work Thu Dec 6, 2007 7:03am GMT By Tabassum Zakaria WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush was told in August that Iran may have suspended its nuclear weapons programme, Bush told Iran may have halted atom work \| Top News \| Reuters Yet, two months later in October, he warns World War III if Iran goes nuclear. This proves he treated the NIE as a junk piece. Then why the intelligence let out such a "junk" information (possibly a truth but not favored by Bush administration) at this time? I think it is a part of Iran war tactic. 1, Iran will be directed to a nuclear weapon "trap". The war will be done in Bush's remnant term. Bush has a swift re-action to that new NIE. He insists Iran a threat despite new report. When Iran war breaks off, Bush will be painted as a hero. 2. A psychological operation to push Iran to a nuclear weapon trap. Iran may feel safe that Bush is under criticism for his aggressive Iran policy and accept a "special offer" from Russia's Putin. The special proposal maybe a bait of enriched uranium which can be also used in military weapon. (see #516. Iran war next stage (10/23/07)) It's a tactic to push Iran to accept a Trojan horse. Russia's nuclear deal with Iran is that Trojan horse. Bush activated Iraq war. Bush tries to plant a Trojan horse in Iran. Bush will start war on Iran once the Trojan horse is planted. 526. Beware of a holiday season attack (12/13/07) When I learned the new Bin Laden tape, I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape". (see #524) Then other news surged which combined with Bin Laden's new tape, could justify a dirty bomb attack in Europe. It may prove my opinion is correct: "But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "I'll push you to support US" (by terror attack on you)." The three events (watch the time of the news date) : 1. Bin Laden's new tape. (11/29) 2. Gang selling enriched Uranium. (11/29) 3. British warns dirty bomb attack. (11/30) if you put them together, could make another perfect 911 story. Do you think they came out coincidentally? Who can manipulate these three events and make their debut at same time? (Bin Laden or Western intelligence?) Re: Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium Times Online November 29, 2007 A gang arrested by Slovakian police was trafficking uranium so enriched that it could have been used by terrorists in a dirty bomb, it emerged today. Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian man were arrested as they tried to sell the uranium last night. The consignment had been tracked by police after it came to their attention inside the former Soviet Union. Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium - Times Online I always said that Feds frames case with the collaboration of Russia and China. In this Christmas and New Years holiday plot, there is no exception. It's interesting that to cover up the secret deal, they use Hungarians and Ukrainian this time. But the source finally leads to Russia. All roads go to Moscow in the end. (or Beijing) There is a lot of advantage to plot with Russia and China. 1. Even if others get suspicious and want to track, they will kick at an iron wall. These two countries belong to another camp. Litvinenko's case is a sample. 2. It's deceivable. Public won't doubt when Russia and China involve in the case. It's hard to imagine that government work with former enemies. As for Al Qaida. It is a tool of the US intelligence. I always say so.