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Old 01-16-08, 02:34 AM   #620 (permalink)
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Re: Is waterboarding torture?

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Yes, a bomb going off is a majorly screwed up situation. I am not sure why this scenario is so unplausable for you, perhaps this is your way of dodging the fact you are willing to have the bomb go off without waterboarding a terrorist who has the info on where and when it is going down? Would you feel differently if your family was in the building involved? Would you feel differently if it was your life involved?
No, I think that it is unplausable that waterboarding would save the day. A suitcase bomb very well could happen. Talk about a needle in a haystack. Probability is on their side. Even if we waterboarded every person we caught, eventually they will succeed. That doesn't mean I like it. I don't wish it to happen. But that is the reality of it.

Your appeals to emotion (I thought only liberals made decisions based on how they feel?) don't phase me. Yes, it would suck. I don't want any Americans to die. But they will, eventually. The President told us to go shopping. I have. I, like Isreal, refuse to live in fear. Trying to "not die" is not living IMO.



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We should have killed Osama Bin Laden when we had the chance, but Madeleine Notbright screwed it up by letting the Pakistanis know ahead of time we were about to bomb him who tipped off Bin Laden. Not to digress...
Who should we have waterboarded?

Were we supposed to invade Pakistan's airspace without warning? Talk about NOTBRIGHT.

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We told them it was coming a few days before it happened. They refused to surrender.
So if we are given warning, should we surrender?


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According to the Constitution the President is already responsible for military strategy. According to Federalist Paper 69:
"It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces."
So you are of the Cheney school of the President being a monarchical position that can ignore laws when it suits them?


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I believe in a Creator and I LOVE MY COUNTRY. Can you say the same thing?

No, I don't believe in a creator. I love my country.(Does typing in all caps make you more patriotic than me?)
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