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Is the CDC Lying to Us ??

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First, a couple of interviews of two Ebola survivors who caught the disease in Africa.

The first is a interview with a Doctor who contracted the virus while he was working at a Ebola Clinic. He can't recall having direct contact with any patients and is still unsure how he contracted the disease...


Ebola survivor I, Senga Omeonga: 'Every day I

" Probably somewhere I touched him. At the time he was declared negative, I was sitting in his room talking to him and being close to him. I don’t really remember direct contact. Maybe the last few days when he was almost abandoned. Everyone was afraid to touch him. He was screaming. I removed his nasogastric tube and he was fighting. I had my face shield and mask on.

Maybe it was in the beginning, when I was sitting in his room. Sometimes I had just a T-shirt on. I don’t know. There are lots of questions. Every day I’m still thinking: “When was I contaminated?”

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The next interview is with Aid Worker Nancy Writebol, who was returned to the US for treatment after contracting the Virus.

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened'

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened' | Science/AAAS | News

" Ebola nearly killed Nancy Writebol in July—and it also made her famous, which helped broadcast to the world that it needed to respond more aggressively to what had grown from a small outbreak into an out-of-control epidemic.

Writebol, a clinical nurse associate, became ill with the disease while working for the missionary group SIM in Monrovia. She and her husband David spoke with Science on 24 September about a topic that has yet to receive much attention: How do health care workers who are trained to protect themselves nevertheless become infected with the Ebola virus? "

So far the CDC has downplayed the possibility of Ebola ( Marburg Virus ) spreading and has advised the general public to wash their hands and not to panick.



But given the two survivor accounts, AND the CDC's own apparent personal protective equipment standards....
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Now I agree, we shouldn't panick, but I also think the CDC and the Federal Government WOULD purposely misinform the populace in a attempt to maintain calm.

The fact that ANYONE could be allowed to just hop on a plane and fly out of the area of Sub-Sahara Africa is proof enough of how incompetent and ineffective this Administration is when it comes to protecting anything but their Political narratives.

I wouldn't put it past them or the CDC to be so Politically corrupted that they would put their Political ambitions over the health of the American people.
 
Fenton said:
First, a couple of interviews of two Ebola survivors who caught the disease in Africa.

The first is a interview with a Doctor who contracted the virus while he was working at a Ebola Clinic. He can't recall having direct contact with any patients and is still unsure how he contracted the disease...


Ebola survivor I, Senga Omeonga: 'Every day I

" Probably somewhere I touched him. At the time he was declared negative, I was sitting in his room talking to him and being close to him. I don’t really remember direct contact. Maybe the last few days when he was almost abandoned. Everyone was afraid to touch him. He was screaming. I removed his nasogastric tube and he was fighting. I had my face shield and mask on.

Maybe it was in the beginning, when I was sitting in his room. Sometimes I had just a T-shirt on. I don’t know. There are lots of questions. Every day I’m still thinking: “When was I contaminated?”

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

The next interview is with Aid Worker Nancy Writebol, who was returned to the US for treatment after contracting the Virus.

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened'

Ebola survivor II, Nancy Writebol: 'We just don't even have a clue what happened' | Science/AAAS | News

" Ebola nearly killed Nancy Writebol in July—and it also made her famous, which helped broadcast to the world that it needed to respond more aggressively to what had grown from a small outbreak into an out-of-control epidemic.

Writebol, a clinical nurse associate, became ill with the disease while working for the missionary group SIM in Monrovia. She and her husband David spoke with Science on 24 September about a topic that has yet to receive much attention: How do health care workers who are trained to protect themselves nevertheless become infected with the Ebola virus? "

So far the CDC has downplayed the possibility of Ebola ( Marburg Virus ) spreading and has advised the general public to wash their hands and not to panick.



But given the two survivor accounts, AND the CDC's own apparent personal protective equipment standards....
View attachment 67173832...............it would seem that we're dealing with a disease that's a little more threatening than they would have us believe.


Now I agree, we shouldn't panick, but I also think the CDC and the Federal Government WOULD purposely misinform the populace in a attempt to maintain calm.

The fact that ANYONE could be allowed to just hop on a plane and fly out of the area of Sub-Sahara Africa is proof enough of how incompetent and ineffective this Administration is when it comes to protecting anything but their Political narratives.

I wouldn't put it past them or the CDC to be so Politically corrupted that they would put their Political ambitions over the health of the American people.
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They might be holding some things back to keep people calm. Didn't Texas release an infected man the other day. Last I heard their are 80 people that he could have infected after his release and they are under observation. But all is well, Perry says it was a silly mistake and won't happen again.
 
Fenton said:
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Now I agree, we shouldn't panick, but I also think the CDC and the Federal Government WOULD purposely misinform the populace in a attempt to maintain calm.

The fact that ANYONE could be allowed to just hop on a plane and fly out of the area of Sub-Sahara Africa is proof enough of how incompetent and ineffective this Administration is when it comes to protecting anything but their Political narratives.

I wouldn't put it past them or the CDC to be so Politically corrupted that they would put their Political ambitions over the health of the American people.
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Flights into the USA should be Banned by the President/CDC. (to/thru EU too)
There is No business/tourism/etc from Liberia or Sierra Leone that is mandatory nor significant.

Liberians officials are saying this guy Lied about being exposed after carrying a pregnant victim into to a clinic.
There is Absolutely No reason Not to Ban flights/passport-holders direct and/or indirect and stop them from boarding planes to the USA. Only Aid workers should be traveling back and forth, and even then, on Specially equipped planes.

I just saw an Infectious disease expert on CNN say we shouldn't ban flights because the economies of those two countries are economically fragile.
Are you Kidding me!
Give them aid and continue the overseas clinics but lets NOT voluntarily bring the virus here.

Another Expert, Fauchi, won't admit error. Just says IF that (lotsa thats) happened, it needs to be corrected."
 
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DifferentDrummr said:
No need to ban flights - just quarantine them for a while.
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Quarantine is 3 Weeks for Ebola.
Utterly Impractical/Impossible.
There aren't enough Hotel rooms/etc in those countries for 3 Nights full of flights, much less 3 Weeks.
By far the simplest/safest is just to Ban flights.
Ridiculous suggestion.
 
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BMCM said:
They might be holding some things back to keep people calm. Didn't Texas release an infected man the other day. Last I heard their are 80 people that he could have infected after his release and they are under observation. But all is well, Perry says it was a silly mistake and won't happen again.
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A silly mistake that could be the start of the us based ebola outbreak. How many millions of people does that threaten?
 
mbig said:
Quarantine is 3 Weeks for Ebola.
Utterly Impractical/Impossible.
There aren't enough Hotel rooms/etc in those countries for 3 Nights full of flights, much less 3 Weeks.
By far the simplest/safest is just to Ban flights.
Ridiculous suggestion.
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I was talking about inbound flights. Not many people fly to the US from Liberia or Sierra Leone. And I would guess that the EU already has quarantines in place.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
I was talking about inbound flights.
Not many people fly to the US from Liberia or Sierra Leone.
And I would guess that the EU already has quarantines in place.
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Another Ridiculous suggestion.
ALL countries including the EU/USA should be protecting their citizens.
and there is NO quarantine by any country I am aware of or mentioned on any news program... Nor a quick Google search.
If any West Africans were being held for 3 WEEKS by any country, you WOULD have heard about it.
It would be Headline News here too.
You also Disingenuously dropped Liberia, created by American Blacks and populated by their descendants.

All countries should protect their citizens. Most Notably us/the USA by Banning any passengers from those origin countries.

Your posts are so Bad, I nominate you as next head of the CDC.
 
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mbig said:
Another Ridiculous suggestion.
ALL countries including the EU/USA should be protecting their citizens.
and there is NO quarantine by any country I am aware of or mentioned on any news program... Nor a quick Google search.
If any West Africans were being held for 3 WEEKS by any country, you WOULD have heard about it.

Your posts are so Bad, I nominate you as next head of the CDC.
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I don't consider a "quick Google search" to be fact-checking.

However, if European countries are letting in travelers from Liberia without a quarantine, they're nuts.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
I don't consider a "quick Google search" to be fact-checking.

However, if European countries are letting in travelers from Liberia without a quarantine, they're nuts.
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What?
Neither we Nor Europe are doing it.
It would be HUGE NEWS if it did happen: Plenty of headlines on Google.
and YOU made the claim about a quarantine in EU countries, it's up to YOU to provide the headline/link to prove it.

So as well as Obtuse, your posts now seek to DISHONESTLY Shift the Burden of proof for YOUR Nonsense claim.
 
mbig said:
What?
Neither we Nor Europe are doing it.
It would be HUGE NEWS if it did happen: Plenty of headlines on Google.
and YOU made the claim about EU countries, it's up to YOU to provide the headline/link to prove it.

So as well as Obtuse, your posts now seek to Dishonestly Shift the Burden of proof for YOUR Nonsense claim.
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I never claimed that ANY particular country did or did not have a quarantine.

You, OTOH, clearly need to take some kind of pill.
 
Been thinking the same thing, but anytime someone mentions that they think it's more serious than they're telling us, we're called paranoid. If you can only get it from bodily fluids, then why did these two get it?They also did a tree of sorts that showed how a family was infected and how it passed on to others who had casual contact with them including a baby. Since it's really hard to exchange bodily fluid from normal everyday contact, it's not adding up.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
I never claimed that ANY particular country did or did not have a quarantine.

You, OTOH, clearly need to take some kind of pill.
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You GOOFILY Said
"And I would guess that the EU already has quarantines in place."

And it was just as NUTS as your quarantine (which is 3 WEEKS) instead of Ban suggestion.
There are NO EU quarantines You Claimed were in Place.
You didn't even go search for one when challenged. Just more BS.

Another DISHONEST semantic evasion.


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Different Drummer has been outed in his attempt at Disingenuous debate.
Making goofy/wrong claims to back his original disastrous ones.
His last trick..
When confronted with being Outed on HIS wrong "EU quarantine" Claim...
He tried to DISHONESTLY shift that to "I didn't say any particular country"... instead.
 
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mbig said:
You GOOFILY Said
"And I would guess that the EU already has quarantines in place."

And it was just as NUTS as your quarantine (which is 3 WEEKS) instead of Ban suggestion.
There are NO EU quarantines You Claimed were in Place.
You didn't even go search for one when challenged. Just more BS.

Another DISHONEST semantic evasion.
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Last time I checked, guessing about a situation was hardly the same thing as making a claim about it.

And guessing incorrectly was not considered to be "dishonest."
 
Back to the OP,

So far the CDC and the Federal Government have done little to instill any sense of confidence in first, their ability to keep the Virus from entering into the US and second their ability to offer up honest and objective information on the dangers of this Virus.

The contradictions are are glaring.

The reports by the survivors seem to reveal that it may be transmitted by other forms other than direct contact with the infected bodily fluids. And the CDC's own response as they transport patients in full hazmatt suits with respirators.
 
BMCM said:
They might be holding some things back to keep people calm. Didn't Texas release an infected man the other day. Last I heard their are 80 people that he could have infected after his release and they are under observation. But all is well, Perry says it was a silly mistake and won't happen again.
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Texas released this Man ?

Rick Perry released this Man ?

Or did some Nurse release this Man ?

And explain to me please, why someone could simply hop on a plane and fly straight into our Country from a part of the world that's been OVERRUN by a deadly disease ??

Because THAT'S the mistake.

It's a little late to blame Rick Perry once a infected individual boards a 14 hour flight, and lands in a crowded Airport, and then is picked up and driven into a High Population area.


How does that happen ?? What ? Obama, the State Department and or CDC isn't up on the last few months of whats been happening in West Africa ??

As it turns out there are real consequences to electing someone based on platitudes and empty bumper sticker slogans.
 
It's about time we purged the population anyway. Only the most adaptable survive. Good luck everyone. Oh, and by the way, if only 2-or-3 of us are left after this . . . let's not have survival keep us from staying in touch. I'm sure the Internets will still work.

Zombie apocalypse doesn't seem so far fetched now does it? Throw your guns and kill some brains . . . shoot off a knife or two. Snort a little whiskey and drink some cocaine . . . then kiss your arse goodbye, because we are all gonna die. Damn Ebola killing everyone indiscriminately. This never happened before feral black folk roamed the White house grounds. Damn Obama playin' his "Knockout Game" with America.

Oh well . . . it's not like we weren't warned. I feel so dumb now.
 
DiavoTheMiavo said:
It's about time we purged the population anyway. Only the most adaptable survive. Good luck everyone. Oh, and by the way, if only 2-or-3 of us are left after this . . . let's not have survival keep us from staying in touch. I'm sure the Internets will still work.

Zombie apocalypse doesn't seem so far fetched now does it? Throw your guns and kill some brains . . . shoot off a knife or two. Snort a little whiskey and drink some cocaine . . . then kiss your arse goodbye, because we are all gonna die. Damn Ebola killing everyone indiscriminately. This never happened before feral black folk roamed the White house grounds. Damn Obama playin' his "Knockout Game" with America.

Oh well . . . it's not like we weren't warned. I feel so dumb now.
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On the issue of Zombie apocalypse...are we talking Fast Zombies ( 28 Days later and Dawn of the Dead 2004 ) or Slow Zombies ( Walking Dead ) ??

Because the virus that creates slow zombies apparently destroys their Cerebellum, which is why they stumble around and aren't even capable of exceeding a fast trot.

If its THAT Zombie virus I don't think we have anything to worry about.
 
DiavoTheMiavo said:
feral black folk
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Please, please, please tell us you are a leftist? If not, is it possible, you'd consider signing up with the left? Not in the habit of turning away supporters, but you'd really be much happier on the other side?
 
Respecthelect said:
Please, please, please tell us you are a leftist? If not, is it possible, you'd consider signing up with the left? Not in the habit of turning away supporters, but you'd really be much happier on the other side?
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Oh, I don't take credit for those words . . . I was repeating something I read once . . . from someone not me. It is a catchy phrase yeah? I'm so middle of the road neither side likes me. However, those are not my sentiments . . . those are sarcasms, perhaps I should have used a disclaimer, but it was rather obvious.
 
Fenton said:
On the issue of Zombie apocalypse...are we talking Fast Zombies ( 28 Days later and Dawn of the Dead 2004 ) or Slow Zombies ( Walking Dead ) ??

Because the virus that creates slow zombies apparently destroys their Cerebellum, which is why they stumble around and aren't even capable of exceeding a fast trot.

If its THAT Zombie virus I don't think we have anything to worry about.
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I'm thinkin' with all the blood loss prior to death we are looking at slow zombies. However, since most of the zombies would originate in Africa, they could perhaps be really good at running marathons. It's like the Tortoise and the Hair . . . their stamina could pay off.
 
Fenton said:
Texas released this Man ?

Rick Perry released this Man ?

Or did some Nurse release this Man ?

And explain to me please, why someone could simply hop on a plane and fly straight into our Country from a part of the world that's been OVERRUN by a deadly disease ??

Because THAT'S the mistake.

It's a little late to blame Rick Perry once a infected individual boards a 14 hour flight, and lands in a crowded Airport, and then is picked up and driven into a High Population area.


How does that happen ?? What ? Obama, the State Department and or CDC isn't up on the last few months of whats been happening in West Africa ??

As it turns out there are real consequences to electing someone based on platitudes and empty bumper sticker slogans.
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Let's see, he went to a hospital in Texas, he was given antibiotics and sent away. Perry said it was a simple mistake and all is well.
Last I heard there are now 100 people that are under observation because of this simple mistake.
Doctors release people from hospitals not nurses.
At some point the Conservatives will have to stand up and take responsibility for their screw ups.
Should flights from these parts of the world be grounded, probably.
However if the CDC,FAA, or Obama grounded these flights the Conservatives would be yelling "Dictator" and "The world is gonna end" and all sorts of things they think will get them political points.

Face facts, that Texas hospital released a person with Ebola to the general population and Perry tried to cover it up. Take responsibility for your mistakes and move on.
 
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